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Skriven 2008-10-17 11:27:00 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 22008 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: Legal Strictions
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Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Thursday October 16 2008 at 12:52:

RW>>> The difference was; their above was Der Fuhrer, not any god.

RB>> Better check your facts. There was enough religious theory spouted
RB>> during that time to "prove" that all the nasty deeds were "willed by
RB>> God", and that the Fuehrer only carried out that will.

RW> That is what 'Mein Kamph' is all about. Those aren't facts, just the
RW> rantings of a madman.

Unfortunately no. Otherwise they would not have had the consequences they had.
And actually I was thinking about things like "Das Mythos des 20. Jahrhunderts"
by Alfred Rosenberg.

RB>> You can "prove" anything you want as long as you base your arguments
RB>> on belief and not hard facts.

RW> Great! You do believe that Adolph was right then and all of his
RW> madness was granted to him by God.

Try not to ignore the quotation marks in my sentences the next time.

RW>>> Life is a constant struggle between good and evil and each person
RW>>> has a free will and must choose a side.

RB>> True, but:

RB>> - Define "good" and "evil" (and already we're talking opinions and
RB>> beliefs)

RW> Nothing wrong with that, as moral societies have already done it for
RW> us.

Define "moral society". Is that "a society that holds _my_ values?

RB>> - Define "higher values" - do something evil and save your family, or
RB>> refuse and see them shot.

RW> Saving your family can't be evil, unless you and your family are evil
RW> and need to be done away with.

You're waffling.

RB>> There are a few other things involved, but those give a nice start.

RW> They're not much to go on, if you don't have any faith.

Meaning "blind obedience" (the Germans say "Kadavergehorsam" and mean that
every order, regardless of how crazy, evil or downright criminal, MUST be
obeyed).

RW>>> As I recall the Calley case from those days, there was never any
RW>>> mention of 'doing' those Vietnamese in the name of God. It all
RW>>> boiled down to his fear of the Viet Cong infiltrating every aspect
RW>>> of his life, including every villager he came across.

RB>> Which is true, but not what I wrote. I would have hung the SOB and
RB>> scattered his ashes in the local river the same as they did with the
RB>> Nuremberg war criminals. Fair is fair.

RW> That certainly would have done a lot of good for the reputation of the
RW> US, that's for sure.

Actually, I think it would have. It would have shown that right is right and
wrong is wrong, regardless of nationality.

Cheers, Bob

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