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Text 23039, 86 rader
Skriven 2008-11-02 16:23:06 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
  Kommentar till text 23000 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: Loyalties
=================
Hello Björn.

01 Nov 08 17:21, you wrote to me:

 JS>>      As I recall the inspectors (Among others)

 BF>    BEEP #1!

 BF>    There were no others! There were UN inspectors, period.

 BF>    Well, there was of course dozens of US spy satellites passing over
 BF> Iraq, on a regular basis, for more than a decade. Plus thousands of
 BF> spy plane sorties taking high resolution pictures of the entire
 BF> country. But of course, all that intel is classified, so you will
 BF> never be told what they revealed -- even if it was *your* tax money
 BF> that paid for it all.

    There was also the intelligence communities of several countries that
provided info.


 JS>> some of whaat you mention above were denied access to search for
 JS>> and determine their existance.

 BF>    BEEP #2!

 BF>    They were not! They were given access to almost everything they
 BF> demanded. Some of the demands were so obviously biased that even the
 BF> inspectors personally objected. Remember that the chief inspector was
 BF> Swedish, and here in Sweden we *do* get the total picture regardless
 BF> of what the White House Halliburton bosses say.

     You can't be serious Björn. Hussein denied the inspectors access
on a regular basis. In 1998 the UN inspectors pulled out of Iraq because
the Iraqi government was continually dening them access and they were
not being allowed to do their job.



 JS>> As I have already stated. If Hussein
 JS>> wanted to show the the world how wrong the US was. The easyest
 JS>> way would have been to let the UN inspectors search and find
 JS>> none.

 BF>    You are absolutely correct. That would have been the easyest (sic!)
 BF> way. And -- can you imagine? -- that's exactly what he did!!!

     Yeah... about 4 years later when Hussein was ready you mean. By then
he (Hussein) was ready to have the inspectors find what they were supposed
to find, nothing.

 JS>> Yet Hussein chose to deny them access and hinder their movement
 JS>> within Iraq.

 BF>    He did? Who told you that? FoxNews? The UN inspectors sure as hell
 BF> painted a completely different picture. But I guess that picture was
 BF> censored in the US of A?

    Back in 1991 as part of cease fire agreement the UN ordered the Iraqi
goverment to remove or eliminate its biological, chemical, and nuclear
weapons. The Iraqi government agreed but then for eight years deceived,
obstructed, and threatened international inspectors sent to inspect and
verify the destruction of its WMD's. The Iraqi government lied about the status
of its WMD's and obstructed the UN inspection teams. Iraq continued
to harass, hinder, and frustrate inspectors until they decided in 1998
to pull out because they were not being allowed to do their job. As I
recall it wasn't until 2002 that Hussein told the UN inspectors that they
could continue to inspect. By that time I suspect that the inspectors found
just what Hussein wanted them to find. NOTHING.


    Both the IAEA and the UNSCOM reported that their work in Iraq was
unfinished and further inpections were needed. UNSCOM also reported many
errors, mostly with regard to WMD's between what Iraq claimed it
had and evidence discovered. The point here Björn is that there is much
more information that you are seeming unwilling to let yourself see.



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Jeff

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