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Skriven 2008-11-28 22:32:20 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
  Kommentar till text 24191 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
Ärende: The New National Anthem
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Hello Lee.

27 Nov 08 23:16, you wrote to me:
 >> LL>Saddam Hussein never offered refuge for al-Qaeda.

 JS>> Refuge? Not that I am aware of.

 LL> You contradictred yourself by your following comments -

 JS>> But back 1998 Bin Laden did make a trip to Iraq.

 LL> Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

 JS>> Also in 1998 two of Bin Laden's military commanders made a trip
 JS>> to Iraq to consult with Saddam's son Qusay on intelligence matters.

 LL> Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

 JS>> By the end of 1998 Hussein reportetly came to the conclusion
 JS>> based on input fron his son Qusay. That input being the result of
 JS>> Qusay's dialog with Al-Queda commanders. Iraqi intelligence then
 JS>> reportedly met with Bin-Laden to discuss an allience and plans for
 JS>> future coordinated terrorist attacks against the US.

 LL> Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

     Your constant denial will get you nowhere Lee.


 JS>> There is plenty of reason Lee to see support or at least
 JS>> cooperation between Hussein and Bin-Laden.

 LL> None that I could find.  None that others could find.  Except perhaps
 LL> George W. Bush, who is a victim of the figments of his own
 LL> imagination.

     You have to be willing to actually and objectively look Lee. I
looked at several differant sources. One of which I think was the
Associated Press.

 >> LL>What good did it do him?  His country was still invaded,

 JS>> The Iraqwar was based on several reasons.

 LL> The reason for the invasion of Iraq was because Bush ordered it.

 JS>> Only one of which was the Hussein/Al-Queda connection.

 LL> There was no Hussein/al-Qaeda connection.

    Do you actually close your eyes and cover your ears to avoid that
which you are unable to accept???

 >> LL>his regime ousted, his own neck placed in a noose by
 >> LL>what amounts to a Shiite hit squad, and hanged.

 JS>> Wasn't that after he was tried and found quilty by an Iraqi court?

 LL> Saddam was tried and found guilty by a kangaroo court, then hanged
 LL> by a Shiite hit squad.

     And like your opinion makes anything a fact. Course it was a kangaroo
court. If it was a real court it wouldn't fit your personal reality of the
world events and the reasons for them.


 JS>> Based on Hussein's dictatorship and treatment of his own people.

 LL> Sunnis thought they were treated quite well, and had no reason
 LL> to want Hussein hanged.

 JS>> Did you really expect any other end for Hussein?

 LL> By having Saddam executed, Bush made him a martyr - the holy grail
 LL> of all Muslims.

     <Chuckle> You validate my opinion of you with almost every statement.

      In fact the rest of you reply isn't worth responding to.


 >> LL>George W. Bush's madcap misadventure in Iraq opened the door for
 >> LL>al-Qaeda to move in.  It also allowed al-Qaeda (as well as the
 >> LL>Taliban) to regroup in Afghanistan and expand into Pakistan.

 JS>> Hussein opened the the door and offered support to Al-Queda prior
 JS>> to that time Lee.

 LL> Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

 JS>> Al-Queda has had plenty of time to spread themselves
 JS>> around quietly in a number of countries.

 LL> Thanks to George W. Bush.

 >> LL>Pakistan has nukes.

 >> LL>What will the world be like when Osama bin Laden gets his hands
 >> LL>on The Bomb?  Terrorists do not need missiles to launch nukes.
 >> LL>Nor do terrorists need airplanes to launch nukes.  A truck would
 >> LL>do for short distances, a ship would do for long distances.
 >> LL>Along with a handful of suicide bombers, each equipped with
 >> LL>a little red button.

 JS>> Agreed. Your statement above clearly illustrates why terrorists
 JS>> should be dealt with and elliminated whenever possible.

 LL> The Unabomber is alive and well.
 LL> So is the guy who bombed the Atlanta Olympics.

 JS>> Preferably without killing people if possible.

 LL> Tell that to the Branch Davidians.

 JS>> As I have already stated terrorist qroups need a home and support
 JS>> to grow and spread.

 LL> There are several here in the U.S. of A.

 JS>> Working to take that away is the IMHO the better choice.

 LL> You gonna take their guns away?  I don't think so...

 LL> --Lee


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Jeff

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