Text 24297, 144 rader
Skriven 2008-11-30 15:25:00 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
  Kommentar till text 24228 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: The New National Ant
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Hello Jeff,

>LL>Saddam Hussein never offered refuge for al-Qaeda.
>JS>Refuge? Not that I am aware of.
>LL>You contradictred yourself by your following comments -
>JS>But back 1998 Bin Laden did make a trip to Iraq.
>LL>Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.
>JS>Also in 1998 two of Bin Laden's military commanders made a trip
>JS>to Iraq to consult with Saddam's son Qusay on intelligence matters.
>LL>Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.
>JS>By the end of 1998 Hussein reportetly came to the conclusion
>JS>based on input fron his son Qusay. That input being the result of
>JS>Qusay's dialog with Al-Queda commanders. Iraqi intelligence then
>JS>reportedly met with Bin-Laden to discuss an allience and plans for
>JS>future coordinated terrorist attacks against the US.
>LL>Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

JS>Your constant denial will get you nowhere Lee.

Making stuff up will get you nowhere Jeff.

Fact - Osama bin Laden has never been to Iraq.
Fact - Osama bin Laden has never met Saddam Hussein.
Fact - Osama bin Laden has never been to the USA.

If you have evidence to the contrary, please post it.

Making stuff up doesn't count.  Especially since all parties you
referred to are dead (aside from Osama bin Laden).  And everybody
knows that dead men (such as Qusay, his brother, and his father)
tell no tales.

>JS>There is plenty of reason Lee to see support or at least
>JS>cooperation between Hussein and Bin-Laden.

Where is that support of your wild claims?  Where is that
substantiation or your wild claims? It does not exist!  If
it did, the whole world would know.  But it doesn't.  And
because of that, you have made yourself look like a fool.

>LL>None that I could find.  None that others could find.  Except
>LL>perhaps George W. Bush, who is a victim of the figments of his
>LL>own imagination.

JS>You have to be willing to actually and objectively look Lee.

At what?  Something you or somebody else made up?

JS>I looked at several differant sources.

Cites, please.

JS>One of which I think was the Associated Press.

Cite, please.

Once upon a time I believed in Santa Claus.
Once upon a time I believed in the Easter Bunny.
Once upon a time I believed in the Tooth Fairy.
Once upon a time I believed man walked on the moon.

But now I know better, and am not nearly as gullible as I once was.
Being there is no evidence to support or substantiate such wild claims
as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, or man walking on
the moon, why should anybody believe the wild claims you have made?

If you have evidence to support your statement that Osama bin Laden
traveled to Iraq, met with Saddam Hussein, and also traveled to the
USA multiple times, I'd like to see that evidence.  If it exists.
Which I know, and everybody else knows, does not.

>LL>What good did it do him?  His country was still invaded,

>JS>The Iraqwar was based on several reasons.

>LL>The reason for the invasion of Iraq was because Bush ordered it.

>JS>Only one of which was the Hussein/Al-Queda connection.

>LL>There was no Hussein/al-Qaeda connection.

JS>Do you actually close your eyes and cover your ears to avoid that
JS>which you are unable to accept???

I do not accept bona fide lies.  You might.  But I don't.

>LL>his regime ousted, his own neck placed in a noose by
>LL>what amounts to a Shiite hit squad, and hanged.

>JS>Wasn't that after he was tried and found quilty by an Iraqi court?

>LL>Saddam was tried and found guilty by a kangaroo court, then hanged
>LL>by a Shiite hit squad.

JS>And like your opinion makes anything a fact.

Where are those stockpiles of WMD that your scumbag of a president
says he knows exist in Iraq?  Have you found them yet?  Has anybody
else found them yet?  I don't think so...

JS>Course it was a kangaroo court.

No shit, Sherlock.  How long did it take you to figure that out?

JS>If it was a real court it wouldn't fit your personal reality of the
JS>world events and the reasons for them.

It certainly fit President Pinocchio's version of personal reality.

>JS>Based on Hussein's dictatorship and treatment of his own people.

>LL>Sunnis thought they were treated quite well, and had no reason
>LL>to want Hussein hanged.

>JS>Did you really expect any other end for Hussein?

>LL>By having Saddam executed, Bush made him a martyr - the holy grail
>LL>of all Muslims.

JS><Chuckle> You validate my opinion of you with almost every statement.

Tell us about Osama bin Laden's visit to the USA in 2007.
After all, that is your claim.  Now support and substantiate
your wild claim.  With evidence.  If you can.

JS>In fact the rest of you reply isn't worth responding to.

Too embarrassed to admit the truth, that your scumbag of a president
is a bona fide liar?  Too embarrassed to admit you have been chumped?

There is a reason why President Pinocchio has an approval rating
of only 19 percent.  There is a reason why John McCain lost his bid
for the presidency, losing to a black man.

And yet, you still can't figure it out.
'Tis a shame.

--Lee


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