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Skriven 2009-02-28 12:00:45 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 28216 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: 11yr old with a shotgun
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28 Feb 09 11:49, David Drummond wrote to Roy Witt:

 DD>>>>> Correct, I choose not to live in a country ruled by such a regime
 DD>>>>> -
 RW>>>> Not exactly.
 DD>>> Yes exactly. I choose to live in this country.

 RW>> Unfortunately for you, you chose a country with a worse regime than
 RW>> the one you constantly complain about, but does not affect you at
 RW>> all.

 DD> Of course that country with the worse regime than Australia affects
 DD> me!

Britain?

 DD> My taxes go to support the military that Australia is shamed into
 DD> using to support wars that USA started.

That's your own fault. Your countrymen voted in the weak regime that can't
think for itself.

 DD> The US DCMA legislation is bleeding through to here, that affects me
 DD> to.

See above.

 DD>>>>> oh, and I'm not Jewish.
 RW>>>> You didn't have to be Jewish to be carted off to a concentration
 RW>>>> camp.

 DD>>> If you say so. There are no such camps in this country, even for
 DD>>> those of the Jewish faith.

 RW>> Today is the 76th anniversery of the fire that gutted the German
 RW>> parliament building, the Reichstag, which Chancellor Adloph Hitler,
 RW>> blaming the Communists, used the fire as justification for
 RW>> suspending civil liberties.  That can happen anywhere that a wannabe
 RW>> dictator lives.

 DD> Aren't you lucky that Dubya has stood down.

Actually not. The present regime is the worst since King George, c1775.

 RW>> Not only did they imprison suspected communists, but anyone with a
 RW>> political view not in alignment with the NAZI party. Speak out
 RW>> against such a regime there as you do here and they'd throw away the
 RW>> key.

 DD> Where as in USA one just gets vilified and badmouthed in the media.
 DD> That does not happen here.

LOL! That's not what I find in Australian media...you're not reading it if
you think like that.

 RW>>>>>> You both have only heard fairy tale stories about it.

 DD>>>>> Where as you actually live in such a country where draconian
 DD>>>>> regimes run the place.

 RW>>>> I don't live in Europe.

 DD>>> That's right, you live in USA, a country renowned for its draconian
 DD>>> government.

 RW>> On the contrary, a country known for is vast freedoms. You might be
 RW>> thinking of the Euros for draconian governments, or Australia, whose
 RW>> influenced by those same draconian regimes. Queen Elizebeth doesn't
 RW>> reside in America, she resides in Europe.

 DD> Nope, I'm thinking about the USA regime where persons whom the regime
 DD> doesn't like are locked away, virtually forever where no-one can help
 DD> them.

There aren't any citizens locked away and forgotten here. You might be
thinking of your friends in Iran, who not only lock them away, but behead
them just for the hell of it.

 RW>>>>>> If the Nazi were to take the entire family, both of you would
 RW>>>>>> probably thank them rather than think about shooting the
 RW>>>>>> bastards.

 DD>>>>> There is no Nazi party in this country, those nutters have all
 DD>>>>> moved to USA. You concept is moot.

 RW>>>> So the Australian Nazi Party doesn't exist, dawn unda? Or is it
 RW>>>> they don't exist when it's convenient for you to deny them?

 DD>>> If they exist they keep a very low key.

 RW>> LOL! A so-called master of the internet and you don't know about
 RW>> Australian NAZI party websites.

 DD> ROFL. Who called me a 'master of the Internet"????

You did.

 DD> Did you read that on one of your web sites?

No, right here in Fidonet.

 DD> Just because the Australia NAZI party may have a web site does not
 DD> make then present in every day politics in this country.

But you denied that they even existed...are you changing your tune now
that you've been shown the facts?

 DD>>> No sign of them on any election posters, no street marches, no sign
 DD>>> on most voting slips. The Nazis are not a viable political parry in
 DD>>> this country.

 RW>> The point is, in spite of your previous denial, they do exist.
 RW>> Thanks for playing that game.

 DD> I said they do not exist as a viable political party. I stand by
 DD> that.

No one even suggested that they were.

 RW>>>>>> If you were an American, there's no fear of that happening.

 DD>>>>> Being American didn't help the Chileans when Augusto Pinochet did
 DD>>>>> his thing.

 RW>>>> They weren't Americans. As you pointed out, they were Chileans.

 DD>>> Chile IS in America.

 RW>> No it isn't. It's in South America...

 DD> And USA is in North America, your point?

They're not referred to as Americans. Which seems to clog your brain from
clear thinking.

 RW>> they're not called Americans though,
 RW>> they're called Chileans, even by their neighbors in South America.

 DD> Collectively they are all called "Americans" even by themselves and
 DD> their neighbours in South America.

NOT!

 DD> Break out of your little bubble and go and have a look. Be careful
 DD> that they don't do away with you though, the majority are not too
 DD> enamoured with the evil USA. [...]

LOL! You're in the little bubble. It must be horrible to be in such a
crowded place occupied by all of you naysayers from dawn unda.

 RW>>>> They're still trying to legally oust Ceasar Chevez, in South
 RW>>>> America. That will probably come to the use of firearms if he
 RW>>>> doesn't go peacefully. Mexico is on the verge of political
 RW>>>> collapse because of the drug lords and in spite of the law, they
 RW>>>> own firearms. Probably more than the government. They're
 RW>>>> citizens...

 DD>>> I don't know any Caesar Chevez. Hugo Chevez

 RW>> Sorry. Got my DICTATORS mixed up. Caesar Chevez was a liberal
 RW>> Mexican who unionized the illegal alien field workers in California.
 RW>> Nowadays known as La Raza...

 DD>>>  of Venezuela seems to be liked well enough among the other
 DD>>> countries.

 RW>> Sure...as long as he stays in his own back yard. His next door
 RW>> neighbors in Columbia don't like him at all.

 DD> But they hate the USA even more.

BS.

 DD> Chevez is the lesser of the two evils.

On the contrary. The US doesn't interfere with any other North or South
American regime, unless they get out of line like the little dictator of
Panama did. Chavez's ambitions make him more dangerous than the Mexican
drug cartels at the moment. Just because you've been to SA doesn't make
you anywhere near an expert on what happens in this hemisphere.

 DD>>> The seem to hold anyone who won't kowtow to the US in high regard.

 RW>> They also seem to like migrating to the US...odd that you would
 RW>> think they hate it here!

 DD> The ones migrating are not the majority, the ones that hate the USA.

The smart ones know that there's not much of a chance in staying, which is
why they don't try. Not because they hate us.

 DD> However bad USA is, there are obviously those who think themselves
 DD> worse off, and will settle for anything, even life in USA.

Your ignorance is showing. Those who migrate here, even if their stay is
temporary, make more money in a year than they would in a lifetime in
their native land. With $10,000 in the bank of their native country, they
can live like Kings, with servants as well.

 DD> If they could make the distance across the Pacific, more would come
 DD> here in favour of USA.

That's bullshit. Nobody would want to live in dawn unda, unless they
were decendants of former prisoners, indiginant or just plain stupid.

 DD>>> The situation in Mexico is another good example of what happens
 DD>>> when the masses get firearms. Like USA they start shooting each
 DD>>> other.

 RW>> LOL! Mexicans aren't allowed to have firearms by law. None! Nada!
 RW>> Yet, they seem to have as many as can be imported from places who
 RW>> make AK-47s - like China.

 DD> Probably come in Via the US-Mexican border. USA like to fuck around
 DD> in others' affairs like that.

If that were so, there would be reported arrests of gun smugglers. 100% of
them would never make it through the Border Patrol or National Guard.
Besides that, the Mexican government would be the very first ones on top
of that, if such a scenario even existed.

i.e. they're the ones who those weapons are turned on.

More than likely, they're smuggled across the Mexican southern border,
from places like Venesuela, subsidized by Chavez himself.

 RW>> Of course, the peon mentality is, when you have a firearm you're kin
 RW>> to God and can do no wrong. 'Everything in sight belongs to me, I'll
 RW>> just take it and kill the owner.'

 DD> Yes, we see that attitude in USA often.

You only wish that were true. It exists, in Mexico.

 RW>> They're more like Australians who've never had the freedom to think
 RW>> for themselves, instead relying on propaganda spewed by their muslim
 RW>> heroes.

 DD> ROFL - the average Australian doesn't have a lot of time for Muslims.

Seems that you do. Before you changed your origin line, it was a muslim
prayer.

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