Text 29252, 99 rader
Skriven 2009-03-15 07:02:29 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
  Kommentar till text 29192 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Stealing land
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Robert Bashe -> David Drummond wrote:

 RB>>> So to steal the native's land, all you have to do is just re-define
 RB>>> the meaning of "ownership" ;-)

 DD>> Nope no theft on my behalf - I purchased my land all legal like
 DD>> (according to the white fella's rules anyway)

 RB> So you bought stolen property. In Germany, you have no title to stolen
 RB> property and have to give it up without compensation, even if bought in
 RB> good faith. In Australia, the laws are apparently different.

I do have title, all authorised by the Australian law - the only law that
matters in Australia. To them the land is not stolen.

 DD>> Australia was "terra nullus" when the white folks came here - there
 DD>> were no humans living here.

 RB> Except, of course, the Aborigines, who don't count... nice try.

The facts speak for themselves. There were no humans here. USA didn't have
exclusive ownership of that opinion of black fellas.
[...]
 RB>>> Not bad... almost as good as the "civilization" of Aborigine children
 RB>>> by taking them from their parents and raising them in a white
 RB>>> household - that was popular around the turn of the last century.

 DD>> Any later than that too. Most of those kids were better off than if
 DD>> they'd been left with their folks - as are the ones being removed from
 DD>> their families now.

 RB> Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

You weren't sure about "The Stolen generation" or that they were still doing
it?

I'm sure the Family Services Department (or whatever it's called in Germany)
removes kids from the care of their parents when they deem those parents
unsuitable too.

 DD>> Culture is all a load of shit when 10 year old girls are bartering sex
 DD>> for booze and cigarettes, and then participating in a gang bang..

 RB> Hey, it's _their_ culture_, not yours. Maybe they don't like what you do
 RB> either.

Alcohol, tobacco and porn are NOT their culture, it's stuff from white fella's
culture that has infiltrated their lives. It was a white court that prosecuted
and imprisoned the 6 black guys who fucked her. The original case let them off
because "she asked for it". A later retrial,  after a public uproar, locked
them away.

 RB> Go out and piss on Ayres Rock, see what they say to that. I read
 RB> that's a holy place for them.

The aboriginal people claim to be Christian - Christianity doesn't worship
rocks. I have climbed on Uluru (Ayers Rock is the white fella name) - don't
recall pissing on it though. I probably did, I was up there quite a good part
of the day. No black gods zapped me with lightning.

 RB>>> Now, my idea is not to put down Australia, as I hope you've already
 RB>>> guessed, but I do object to pointing fingers when none of us is
 RB>>> really clean - the old "he who is without sin throw the first stone"
 RB>>> kind of stuff, you know.

 DD>> I do not throw stones - and my sins are minimal (depending on your
 DD>> definition of sin). [...]

 RB> Lucky you added the last point. However, this business about "not
 RB> throwing stones" must be a joke. You do that all the time.

I haven't hefted a stone in a long time.

 DD>> I know not one person personally (and I have met quite a few in the
 DD>> last 57 years) who has been motivated to murder.

 RB>>> Believe what you want and just hope you'll never get into a position
 RB>>> where your beliefs are tested. Most of us don't, luckily.

 DD>> I live in a culture/country where the likelihood is so slim as to to
 DD>> be non-existent.

 RB> Like I say, believe what you want and hope for the best.

The facts speak for themselves. Maybe you've lived too long in those dangerous
places and your fear makes you unable to see how good we have it here in the
free world (unless of course you're a 10yo black female who wants booze and
cigarettes).

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regards

David

http://www.jabberwocky.com.au/southamerica

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