Text 35757, 131 rader
Skriven 2009-09-07 06:57:10 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
  Kommentar till text 35604 av Wayne Chirnside (1:123/140)
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Hello Wayne,

>LL>You want to know who poisoned the waters of bipartisanship?
>LL>George "It's my way or the highway" W. Bush.  Well, the American
>LL>people showed Boy George what they thought of his eight years of
>LL>terror by electing a BLACK MAN as President of the United States.

>WC>Yeah that was a hoot,
>WC>George W. Bush was virtually campaigning for Obama though too
>WC>stupid to realise it.
>WC>The GOP knew as he was persona non grata at the Republican convention
>WC>and merely televised into the convention.

>LL>John McCain was stuck behind the eight-ball.  He had to pick a running
>LL>mate who would satisfy the rabid radical right, and say kind words
>LL>about their hero, George W. Bush.  OTOH, he had to find some way to
>LL>distance himself from the second-most unpopular guy in America (George
>LL>W. Bush), as well as from the most unpopular guy in America (Dick
>LL>Cheney).  It was simply an impossible task.  An impossible task for
>LL>anybody, not just John McCain.

>WC>Only someone as stupid as Bush could have accomplished it.

>LL>George W. Bush is a very clever and cunning guy.  Managed to steal
>LL>two presidential elections.  And get away with it.

WC>My perception is he was the puppet for more powerful forces,
WC>the front man.
WC>The cunning in my opinion came from those who wanted him
WC>elected so they could pillage at will.

He got what he wanted.

WC>Hey have you heard the latest on warrentless wiretapping per wired.com?

WC>Now if while seeking terrorists if they happen across other crimes
WC>they're considering using that evidence.

WC>Virtually no more presumed innocence as they are already
WC>intruding on your privacy and civil rights

WC>Perhaps this is what they had in mind when first they
WC>passed warrently wiretapping presuming to catch terrorists?

It has been moving in that direction for years.  Probably no way
to avoid it, given the technological advances that have been made.

WC>BTW, the 9/11 terrorists never discussed operational plans
WC>over telecommunications while in the U.S.

Why should they?  Unless they wanted to do so as a diversion.

WC>So warrentless wiretapping had no chance of preventing 9/11
WC>had it been previously available.

And yet the events of 9/11 could have been prevented - had our
shit for brains president listened to his (intelligence) advisers.

WC>OTOH, Richard Clarke told the Bush administration
WC>of an impending attack by Al Qaeda
WC>using commercial aircraft on U.S. targets using conventional, read
WC>effective, intelligence procedures.

Richard Clarke was not the only one.  Gary Hart also wrote about it,
and testified before Congress, in an official government report.  Prior
to the events of 9/11.

>WC>I'd at first thought the Democrats had once again defeated
>WC>themselves when running a woman and a black man as candidates.

>LL>The funny thing about it is that Obama actually carried a majority
>LL>vote in the South.  I had expected him to do well in the rest of the
>LL>country, which he did, winning every region.  But I had not expected
>LL>him to get nearly as many votes as he did in the South.  And a lot
>LL>of those votes were white votes.  Not just black votes.  He also
>LL>surprised me in the number of Hispanic votes he got.  Even so, I am
>LL>convinced that had Hillary Clinton been the nominee, she would have
>LL>received even more votes (both electoral and popular votes) than
>LL>did Obama.

>LL>And that BLACK MAN did not need to go cry to any justices of the
>LL>United States Supreme Court to have them appoint him to a damned
>LL>thing.

>WC>That's a disgrace to the U.S., a total recount of Florida
>WC>was called for under existing Florida law.

>LL>Al Gore filed legal papers for a total recount of Florida to take
>LL>place. George W. Bush never called for any statewide recount.

>WC>Of course having the Supervisor of Florida elections Kathy
>WC>Harris his campaign manager and Jeb his brother Govenor
>WC>swung the equation from fair and legal to an illegal power grab.

>LL>It was clearly rigged from the get-go.

WC>Yup, including the voting machines here in Florida.
WC>They've yet again been replaced.

Kind of hard to cheat three times in a row.

>WC>Had a total recount taken place as required under the law Gore
>WC>clearly won.

>LL>The news media reported that had all valid votes cast been counted
>LL>that Al Gore would have won the state of Florida by at least 50,000
>LL>votes.  Unfortunately, five Republican-appointed justices of the US
>LL>Supreme Court saw to it that not all valid votes cast were allowed
>LL>to have been counted.

>WC>A cute side story on Katherine Harrass is she was actively promoting
>WC>Celestial Drops as a cure for Florida citrus growers citrus
>WC>canker, spend Florida taxpayers money to study them .lso

>WC>She was scammed by a con man, Celestial Drops turned out to be
>WC>plain tap water.

>LL>That somehow does not surprise me one bit.

WC>Google it, it's all out there.

I'm sure it is.  But she's history and no longer a factor in US
politics.  So why bother keeping tabs on a has-been?

--Lee


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