Text 5130, 75 rader
Skriven 2007-08-04 12:10:39 av Carol Shenkenberger (3:800/201)
   Kommentar till text 5121 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Re: FidoNews 24:31 [02/07]: Headline News
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*** Quoting Michiel van der Vlist from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 FR>> A placekeeper nodelist entry has been sent so that should Asia
 FR>> Fidonet come back, they will still have a home.

MvdV> It didn't make it into the Z2 nodelist until this morning...

Well, I did send it a little late and said it may not hit all zones at the same
time.  Thats not a problem, it's a common thing.

Ward may be dropping it soon as i had only a 000-0-0-0-0 phone field entry to
use.  No matter, he might also want to put his own number in there for a
little if he so wishes.  It's up to him and he has my blessing for whichever
tactic he decides is best for the Z2 produced list.

 CS> For now, Z3 *covers Asia but the culture is not the same

MvdV> And Z6 was a monoculture when it was still alive? Oh c'mon, you are no
MvdV> going to try to make me believe there are no cultural differences betw
MvdV> Japan and China? Between the Philippines and India? Between Thailand a

Of course not, nor did I say so.  I refer to it as a culture only in the same
way you are a European while I am a North American.  India does stretch the
cultural grouping much like eastern Russians do with 'european'.

 CS> Meantime, *any possible hardcoded Fidonet softwares that _may_ exist
 CS> (we do not know as it's not been tested) will skip harmlessly over a
 CS> placekeeper.

MvdV> If rubbish software that has zone 6 hard coded exists, we have no idea
MvdV> if it will skip harmlessly over a place keeper. If that software it th
MvdV> badly designed, it may very well trip over a single zone,6 line as wel
MvdV>  After all a single zone line with noting to follow up is *not* what o
MvdV> may expect in a well formatted nodelist.

Believe that which you wish to Michiel, your beliefs do not matter to anyone on
this.  You've called too many others softwares 'rubbish' for anyone to care
anymore.

 CS> Next up, I will show yet again in 2 zones as i transition to 1:275
 CS> this next listing.  The NC there will be on vacation shortly so
 CS> islisting me early and *all understand this.

MvdV> Well I don't. I am having a deja vu here, so I won't go into it too de
MvdV> Let me just say that if you were to come to my net I would *not* "earl

It's none of your business actually.  Fortunately I am not moving to your net.
The relevant ZC's, NC's, and RC's were advised and all gave well wishes.

You may not have that new number showing yet in your version of the nodelist
due to international production dates, but it's there now as 1:275/100. 
Properly PVT and -Unpublished- exactly as I asked for.  He's got my modem
strings in there too which arent needed but it's easier for Derek to do that
now and just insert the phone number when I have one to give him.

I plan to transition to the new number when I get back from vacation in Okinawa
and then Steve will drop me off the 3:800 segment, around the first week of
September or last week of August.  It's all set so all I have to do it drop
him a line when I'm ready and he'll catch it when he next sends an update in.

It's really simple Michiel, don't try to make it sound more complex than it is.
The only 'complex' part was 'following the traditional rules' of P4 as related
to nodes being listed outside their geographical area and how in practice,
they have actually been applied when it's inter-zonal moves of a sysop.

BTW, the other nodelist change you'll see in a bit will be Renato who's going
to shift Z4 to a new ZC as he'll be stateside for his final stage of a PHD and
isnt sure how long it will be.  I believe they are electing a new ZC just now
with several candidates, all of which have excellent english skills.  It's sad
to see him transition out but he said he'll still be on the echo-waves and
chatting with us all.
                                       xxcarol

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