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Skriven 2011-01-19 12:18:38 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Welcome to the 21st century in a supposedly civilized country
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Hello Roy,

On Tuesday January 18 2011 16:57, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> And others say it was much later. Who cares, it is myth anyway.

 RW> The belief in and the worshiping of a god may be myth, but those
 RW> writings also serve as a history of the middleast...

That it is mixed with myth does not make it reliable as a historical document.

 MvdV>>>> Prove that that part was written down at 100 AD.

 RW>>>  Prove that it was written "a couple of hundred years later".

 MvdV>> I have no need to prove anyhing. It is myth anyway.

 RW> But you wanted ME to prove it.

Not really I jsut wanted to see if you had any proof, Other than tha, I do not
really care.

 MvdV>> And than 70 years later, this assumed eye witness realizes he
 MvdV>> has seen something of importance and writes it down.  Yeah right...

 RW> With the life expectancy of 50 years or so,

Better make that 35 or so.

 RW> I doubt that the eye witness was around to write it down then,

That is what I said, but it was YOUR suggestion that an eye witness wrote it
down around 100 AD.

 RW>  but he may have earlier.

So this eye witness wrote it down earlier, but kept it under his hat for a
couple of decades? he thought it important enough to write it down, but not
important enough to sherr it with others? Makes no sense...

Anyway.. too many maybe's.

 MvdV>> Eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable. Human memory is
 MvdV>> notoriously unreliable. A testimony from an eye witness
 MvdV>> written down 70 years after the event might as well be
 MvdV>> classified as fable.

 RW> I'd say so.

Right.

 MvdV>> Also not that at that time, people did not live that long. 90
 MvdV>> year olds would be extermely scarce. So that assumed witness
 MvdV>> would in all likehood be the ONLY eye witness left. No one left
 MvdV>> to confirm or contradict him.

 RW> I doubt that any eye witnesses would be around 70 years later.

That is what I implied.

 MvdV>> It is an utter failure, it has zero credibility.

 RW> I'll agree with the latter...as for a failure, look around you and
 RW> count the heads of those who believe in it.

It is a dwindling crowd. im the fifties there were twice as many churches in
this village as there are now. Of the remaining half, many are used for other
purposes than worshipping. It isa bit like FidoNet. All old hats with very
little new blood. The believers are a dying race.

 RW>>> Donald Duck doesn't exist, except on the movie screen and
 RW>>> souvenir-store shelves.

 MvdV>> The same can be said about JC.

 RW> Nope. His image, and those of his mother, can be seen in every idol
 RW> that the christian churches have in them. Or at least how they wish
 RW> that he looked in their opinion.

The image of Donald Duck can be seen in the waiting room of every dentist.

Cheers, Michiel

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