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Skriven 2011-05-08 10:53:32 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 18346 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Generalizations
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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Gary Perkins on Saturday May 07 2011 at 22:41:

MV> Suppose he was caught alive. What where they going to do with him?
MV> They could hardly hand him over to the The Hague. That would imply
MV> recognition of the ICC. Try him is a court in the US? That might raise
MV> all sorts of nasty questions. Such as what crimes did he commet
MV> according to US law while he was under US jurisdiction?  It may not
MV> have been enough for the death penalty.

Wishful thinking, but the main reason would have been that there would have
been numerous terror attacks directed toward forcing the US to free him. You
can't seriously believe his buddies would have made no attempt to get him out
of jail before, during and after any trial - and such things aren't generally
nonviolent in the case of al Quaida.

MV> Nah, I am not surprised the hassle of a trial was dispensed with. I fo
MV> not approve of it, but suprpised... no.

I think it was the best thing for all concerned, even including Osama. Now he's
a saint to his guys, half the muslim world, and even a few benighted
westerners.

GP>> Keep in mind that oftentimes our government does not necessarily do
GP>> what "we the people" want it to.

MV> I find that a bit of a lame excuse.

No more so than in any European "democracy". Look at the reader's comments in
your own newspaper and see if the population agrees with everything the
government does.

MV> The US presents itself as a democracy.

Which it is, and in some respects (think of freedom of speech) even more so
than the parliamentary democracies in Europe.

MV> So much that it continuesly attempts to impose their superior system
MV> on others.

No, it only removes impediments to democracy where that appears to be
promising. That even applies to Iraq, your favorite hate subject. No way did
the US force a new constitution on the Iraqis. All they did was to remove a
dictator. The Iraqis had to do the rest.

GP>> I've started studying Islam.  I've heard so many crazy things about
GP>> Muslims, I've had to start educating myself about them.  So far, I
GP>> haven't found much that worries me. I still have to look at the
GP>> Qu'ran itself, but I'd imagine it's probably about as barbaric as the
GP>> bible is. That is to say, taken literally, quite barbaric. ;)

The Old Testament. There is, however, also a New Testament, and it is more
typical of modern thinking.

Aside from which, the muslims believe the Koran was actually written by Allah,
and only passed on by Mohammed. That's why they react so hysterically if anyone
from the west (an "unbeliever") even _touches_ a Koran. But no Christian
believes God himself wrote the Bible. And there are certainly no riots if a
Bible happens to be damaged or has pages torn out or whatever.

Islam isn't merely a religion - it's a political manifest and includes a code
of law (the sharia). It's not comparable with Christianty in that respect, nor
is the Koran comparable with the Bible.

Cheers, Bob

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