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Skriven 2011-05-12 20:33:01 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
  Kommentar till text 18631 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: I wanna!
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Hello Ross.

11 May 11 11:56, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

 RC> Hello Michiel!

 RC> 11 May 11 13:54, you wrote to me:

 RC>>> One questions the intelligence of anyone seeking to have sex
 RC>>> with a child, much less an adult, using a computer as the method
 RC>>> of contact.

 MV>> Menno Blom was not seeking sex with a child. A 14 year old is not
 MV>> a child any more.

 RC> In your sick perverted cesspool of a country, perhaps, but quit
 RC> assuming that your laws apply to everyone all over.

Ross, it is sentences like the above that make people hate you. Blom was an
effing idiot and perverted we all know that but not all the Nederlanders are
like that and their country is no more a cesspool than the USofA.

 MV>> As for using a computer as a method of making contact, what is
 MV>> wrong with that? It is a lot more efficient than hanging out in
 MV>> bars and much cheaper.

 RC> Had it occured to you that the anonymity afforded by the computer is
 RC> what got him in trouble?

 MV>> Have you never bought or sold anything on E-bay?

 RC> Nope.

 RC>>> You Dutch arent very smart people, are you?

 MV>> Smarter than you Yanks.

 RC> Only at wearing wood clogs and flood pants.

 RC>>> His actions were based on him thinking he was talking to a 14 yo
 RC>>> girl and he acted accordingly.

 MV>> And both the knowledge that intent to have sex with a 14 yo is
 MV>> illegal AND the fact that there was no 14 yo, were carefully kept
 MV>> from him. A trap was set.

 RC> The mouse can always ignore the trap with the cheese.

 RC> If your pervert had control over his libido, hmm.

 RC> Being enticed is one thing, succumbing to the enticement is _ANOTHER_
 RC> thing entirely, your entire premise is based on blaming the enticer
 RC> and not the enticee, fpr your _entire_ premise to hold any water would
 RC> mean that the pervert BLOM cannot control himself or is legally
 RC> absolved under Dutch law for any _choice_ he makes or may make. Which
 RC> is it Michiel?

 MV>> Indeed. Had he known he was lured into a trap, he would have
 MV>> acted different. He also would have acted different had he known
 MV>> that intent to have sex with a 14 yo is illegal. But he did not
 MV>> know and he was not told...

Blom is rather thick in the head if he hadn't have picked up something was
wrong with the ease he got her to want him.

 RC> So in the Nederlands, you people arent held responsible for the
 RC> choices you make?

 RC>>> You Dutch are an extremely sick people.

 MV>> You Yanks are dangerous murderers. 16 year olds are not mature
 MV>> enough to take the responsibilities that come with being in the
 MV>> driver seat of a high velocity motor vehicle. Cars are
 MV>> #DANGEOUS#. Every month as many people get killed in motor
 MV>> vehicle incidents as were killed at 9/11.

 RC> Strawman!

 RC> If USA Laws arent applicable in your cesspool, then your laws arent
 RC> applicable over here...

 RC> FYI...

 RC> For a 16 yo to get licensed to operate a motor vehicle requires
 RC> parental consent and in many states they have to maintain good grades
 RC> in school, they also are still required to be insured but cannot
 RC> themselves until age 18 enter into a contract with an insurer,
 RC> therefore must ride on the parents policy..

 RC> However you are merely diverting the topic because you know your
 RC> position is flawed.

 MV>>>> He had no intention of molesting a child.

 RC>>> Then why did he go to the motel?

 MV>> To meet the "girl" of course.

 RC> To do what?

 RC>>> Your nation is full of evil perverts, the world would be safer
 RC>>> if you all stayed behind your dikes and levee's.

 MV>> Your nation is full of evil war mongering murderers. It would be
 MV>> better if you were cut off fro the InterNet.

 RC> or you, considering that our war mongering ways is what led to the
 RC> development of the internet..

 RC> Perhaps we ought to ban Dutch Perverts from the internet, would this
 RC> affect you?

 MV>> Can't you figure that out? OK, lemme explain...

 MV>> "Intent" is in the mind. In our mind and since he was from here,
 MV>> presumably that of Menno Blom, a 14 year old is not a child any
 MV>> more and having consensual sex with a 14 year old woman is not
 MV>> molest.

 RC> and after _you_ in particular have consistently reminded us that our
 RC> laws and ways are not applicable over in your cesspool, how can you
 RC> sit there and assume that your ways are applicable over here? You
 RC> already have conceded that ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse
 RC> for breaking it, shouldnt he have preyed upon someone more local to
 RC> him?

 MV>> He may or may not have the intent to accept the invitation to
 MV>> have sex, but if he had, in his mind it was not molesting a child
 MV>> . Therefore he had no intention of molesting a child.

 RC> If your girlfriend visits an Islamic Country and doesnt cover her
 RC> head, she could be breaking their laws despite the lack of intent to
 RC> do so.

 RC> Your excuses lack validity outside of your country.

 RC>>> My actions?

 MV>> The actions of "you war mongering muderering Yanks".

 RC> Alot better than the actions of you Dutch Perverts!

 RC> ==
 RC> Ross
 RC> Fidonet Feeds Or Fidonet In Your Newsreader:
 RC> http://www.easternstar.info E-mail: ross(at)cassell(dot)us | Other
 RC> Places: http://links.cassell.us

 RC> Stand Or Fall!

 RC> ... Without high taxes and welfare, Liberals are nothing!
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Stewart

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