Text 20068, 131 rader
Skriven 2011-06-23 02:32:53 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 20062 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
Ärende: Jackass Dies
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Hello Richard,

 WD>> What would you expect?

 LL>> Tears of grief and mourning.

RW>YEah right.  WOuld that JOhny KNoxville and the rest of
RW>those morons followed him, so long as they don't take any
RW>innocent bystanders along for the trip.

Hollywood loves stuntmen.  So do the actors who depend on those
stuntmen to do the stunts they would otherwise have to perform
themselves.  Most people (actors and fans alike) respect stuntmen
who perform those roles.

Remember, stuntmen are actors.  Real actors.  And they get paid,
very handsomely, for what they do.  We might not know their names.
But we love their stunts.  And some of them perform very dangerous
stunts.

Had a stuntman been killed doing a stunt in place of a major movie
star, nobody would have criticized the stuntman for the job he did.
In fact, most people would have mourned the loss of life.  But if
the stuntman had been an actor on MTV, well, that's different...

 RW> <snip>

 TR>> ....and no more brains than to get drunked up and kill himself in a
 TR>> speeding car wreck? By the way....this jackass fool had other issues
 TR>> with drinking and driving. In 2005 he wrecked another car he was
 TR>> driving while drunk. He went through a program that got the charges
 TR>> dismissed, but he obviously didn't learn anything from that first
 TR>> experience. This time the dumb fuck got killed for his screwin'
 TR>> around. Tough shit!

RW>I'm with you there TIm.  THere is nothing even resembling
RW>art in what those clowns do, and I find its value as
RW>entertainment dubious at best.  LET's hope Bam Margera
RW>decides not to reproduce.

Not everybody was a fan of his television show, or his movies.  But
that does not mean that one should celebrate his death, or say unkind
words about him.  The man died far too young, at age 34.  Not sure how
old his passenger was, but that person also died before his/her time.

Tim is making an assumption that may, or may not, be true.  Was Dunn
drunk?  We don't know.  Was Dunn's passenger drunk?  We don't know
that, either.  Of course, it makes no difference if Dunn's passenger
was drunk, given that Dunn was driving.  Maybe Dunn was driving his
passenger home because his passenger had had too much to drink at the
bar where they had apparently been earlier.  But we don't know that.
We don't even know if the passenger who was with him had had anything
to drink at all.  Or where that passenger had been before stepping
foot inside the car with Dunn.

 LL>> So what did Roger Ebert do?  Upon learning of the
 LL>> tragedy, Ebert got on his computer and took to his
 LL>> Twitter.com page and posted "Friends don't let
 LL>> jackasses drink and drive."

 TR>> Boo hoo hoo! The poor dumb fuck! He joins that other dumb fuck Jimmy
 TR>> Hendricks, who had a decent career, money, a bright future....and
 TR>> dies of an overdose of heroin, the needle still hanging from his
 TR>> arm.

RW>Wrong, Jimi HEndrix died of an overdose of pills, exacerbated by a
RW>dim bulb woman who wouldn't summon help for him.

Jimi Hendrix was murdered.  The official coroner's report was that
Hendrix had died of asphyxiation, having choked on his own vomit, and
having taken 9 sleeping pills.  But what is not mentioned in the
coroner's report is what induced the vomiting.  Or why not all the
pills that were on Hendrix' person had been swallowed.  If Hendrix
had intended to suicide, he would have ingested ALL of the pills,
not a mere handful.  And 9 sleeping pills were not nearly enough to
kill anybody, much less a man who was used to popping pills.  There
are far too many questions that remain unanswered to believe Hendrix
died of an overdose (accidental or deliberate).  And his girlfriend
likely was too wiped out to even notice Hendrix was dead until it was
far too late for her to have done anything, much less call for help.
For more about Hendrix and his mysterious death, check out this url -

http://www.woodstockstory.com/jimi-hendrix-murdered-conspiracy.html

RW>OTherwise, I'd agree with that.  wHy should we feel sorry for such
RW>people?  LIfe is short, earth is overpopulated anyway.  such an end
RW>for fools is fitting and appropriate.

Dunn was an actor.  He provided entertainment for a certain audience
that appreciated his talents.  While his form of entertainment is not
for everybody, it did gain him fame and fortune in certain quarters.

 LL>> That takes a lot of gall.  To be that insensitive,
 LL>> within hours of a man dying suddenly in the prime of
 LL>> his life.  Bam Margera was especially pissed.  And
 LL>> I don't blame him.  His best friend is dead and Ebert
 LL>> calls friends of Ryan a bunch of "jackasses".

 TR>> There ought to be a special place in Hell for people like Hendricks

 RW> <snip>

 TR>> Too bad there isn't some sort of celebrity
 TR>> award for taking themselves out of the gene pool. Stupidity is
 TR>> sometimes its own reward.

RW>Again would agree.  tHe fact that these idiots could even be
RW>classified as entertaining is indicative of the dumbing down of
RW>culture.  I have no sympathy for him or his so-called friends.

Dunn and his castmates made a fortune, laughing all the way to the
bank.  As such, I cannot rightly call any of them "idiots".

 LL>> I am sure millions of others feel exactly the same way as Bam.

 TR>> And I'm sure millions of others (me included) don't give a shit! My
 TR>> only regret is he didn't take himself out sooner!

RW>My only hope is that he took himself out before he decided
RW>to breed.

And what about his millions of fans?  And those who try to imitate
his art?  Millions of kids around the world love skateboarding.
And skateboarding has been around for a long, long time.  You do
realize that is how Ryan and Bam got started with their performance
stunts...

--Lee

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