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Skriven 2011-08-25 19:00:40 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 21965 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
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24 Aug 11 09:15, mark lewis wrote to Robert Bashe:

 RB>> No finger-pointing here, but I think everyone in the echo was
 RB>> involved in the mess, and since the "moderator" was one of the main
 RB>> abusers, he naturally had no interest in cleaning up the echo.
 RB>> That's the reason we're on _this_ side of the divide at the moment.

 ml> agreed... and no one has followed the echo's rules in over 20
 ml> years... the main one i'm pointing at is the topical discussion rule
 ml> that says the topics should be those of the articles posted...

Perhaps it is time to change the rule to what is reality. Discuss
something of any nature and see if someone writes an article about it. I
know a Svede who did that, until he got a reply to an article about the
bad-news-kids in the echo, then he left the echo and eventually Fidonet
because he was too embarrassed to show his face and defend his right to
free speech and his article.

 ml>> but those involved cannot see it because they are too deep in it...
 ml>> if only they would grow up and act their ages... i mean, geez,
 ml>> almost all of them are over 70 and if not, they are fast approaching
 ml>> it... you'd think they'd know how to act and at least they'd not
 ml>> look like a bunch of pre-teen/teen out of control youngin's :?

 RB>> Old folks tend to be stubborn, Mark - how old are you, by the way?

 ml> not only old folks, but also young folk... and middle aged, too...
 ml> age is not an excuse for being stubborn... personality is...

Not just stubborn personalities, as immature personalities do that too.

 ml> as for my age, i was a father at 19, have 5 grand children, have
 ml> buried my oldest son, my 103yo paternal grandmother and my mother
 ml> each about a year apart, and would have been retired from the USAF
 ml> for 10 years now if i had stayed in...

You're still not older than Robert or me.

 RB>> My point is simply that a decently moderated echo would never have
 RB>> gotten into the kind of shape it did - but when the moderator
 RB>> himself is one of the main offenders, who do you turn to?

 ml> i don't know...

The moderator, of course. According to Felten, moderation happens behind
the steel curtain, so we don't know if he's telling the truth or lying
about it. If anyone needed moderating, I'm surely at the top of the list
and I never received any moderator's netmails, if that's how he moderates,
I don't know because those who claimed they had received moderator
requests were all liars in their own right and would support Felten to
their dying breath.

                R\%/itt


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