Text 27459, 115 rader
Skriven 2012-03-30 09:12:26 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 27355 av mark lewis (1:3634/12)
Ärende: Fidonews Vol 29 No 09 February 27, 2012 Page: 2
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28 Mar 12 22:15, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>>>>> How does the mailer see inside an archive when it is not yet
 RW>>>>> informed (via netmail flow file or flag) by the tosser that
 RW>>   there RW>>> is a 'file' in your outbound to send?

 ml>>>> it doesn't...

 RW>>>> Neither does it know there is a password in that file after it is
 RW>>>> tossed and packed.

 ml>>> you keep using the term "packed" which i assume you are using to
 RW>>   mean ml> bundled into an archive with other pkt files...

 RW>> Remember that a tossed packet containing a bundle of packets is a
 RW>> Zipped or 'packed' file, if you must.

 ml> this reads the wrong way around... there is no such thing as "a
 ml> tossed packet containing a bundle of packets"... that is a bundle
 ml> with packets inside it... once it is opened for tossing, it is no
 ml> longer a bundle... and you seem to be confusing packet messages (in a
 ml> PKT) with archived PKTs in a bundle...

Maybe, but you know what I meant.

 RW>>>> All it knows is that there is a a flo file sitting in the Netmail
 RW>>>> folder telling it where to send the file, which is listed in the
 RW>>>> 'subj' field...

 ml>>> not for a file attach mailer... there is no flo file...

 RW>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
 RW>> -- -- Msg  : #48 [182]                         Rcv Uns Tfs Pvt Loc
 RW>> Hld K/s Att
 RW>>  From : ARCmail                           10 Feb 12 20:47:50
 RW>> To   : Roy Witt                          1:387/22.1   11 Feb 12
 RW>> 05:20:14 File : L:\IREX\OUTBOUND\31CFADA0.FR0
 RW>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
 RW>> -- --

 RW>> This is a netmail from FE (ARCmail) indicating to Irex mail that is
 RW>> on hold for a point.

 RW>> It's in the form of FLO file...telling Irex where to find it.

 ml> no... that a File attach format carrying a FRiday 0 (zero) bundle of
 ml> PKTs ;)

For Lost 0's...

 ml>>> .. but this allows me to try to get back to the point of session
 ml>>> passwords... the mailer sees the ?lo file and it knows that there
 RW>>   are ml> files to be sent so when the mailer contacts the remote,
 RW>> it
 RW>>   has to ml> create a PKT on the fly with which to send to the
 RW>> remote...
 RW>>   then the ml> sending of the files can be done... many folk don't
 RW>> know
 RW>>   about that ml> initial "hidden" PKT that is sent between the
 RW>>   mailers... the files ml> being sent can be raw PKTs, bundled PKTs
 RW>> or
 RW>>   any other file...

 RW>> None of which 'must' contain a session password or packet password.

 ml> wrong... at least the initial mailer to mailer PKT must contain the
 ml> session level password if there is one... now consider that that
 ml> first PKT also contains one or more netmail messages... not a
 ml> bundle... just a PKT with more than one netmail message in it... in
 ml> such a case, the session and packet level passwords must be the
 ml> same...

And if one does not use packet level passwords? I don't.

 ml>>>> they are carried in packets in the same place as the packet
 RW>>   password ml>> used by the tosser because both packets are the same
 RW>>   format...

 RW>>>> Binkp? Nope. See above.

 ml>>> i'm not talking about binkp...

 RW>> [Doc Holiday, played by Val Kilmer (to Johny Ringo) in Tombstone
 RW>> mode on]

 RW>> I was...

 ml> sorry that one of us missed the boat ;)

Doc Holiday never misses the boat...it's too tempting to play gambler to
miss out.

 RW>> [Doc Holiday mode off]

 ml>>> i'm talking about normal fully FTN compliant mailers like
 RW>>   d'bridge, ml> frontdoor, binkley, etc... binkd only does one
 RW>> protocol
 RW>>   and doesn't ml> know anything about the basic FTN protocols like
 RW>>   FTS-0001 and its ml> enhancements...

 RW>> Irex knows about all of them.

 ml> only up to a point :P

Ok..

                R\%/itt


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