Text 27797, 83 rader
Skriven 2012-04-11 05:01:28 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 27672 av Nicholas Boel (6798.fidonews)
Ärende: Z4/Z5
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Hello Nicholas,

 >> The total vote was 14 Yes, 7 No, 3 Abstain or 24 total votes.  Even if
 >> all of those votes had been YES, the motion would have still failed for
 >> lack of a quorum.

NB>I don't remember offhand. But is it directly specified in P4 that
NB>you need votes from ALL RCs or higher?

Doesn't matter.

NB>What if RCs/ZCs aren't paying attention?

Doesn't matter.

NB>>What if RCs/ZCs are on vacation?

Doesn't matter.

NB>Should it be held for one person to get back from vacation?

Doesn't matter.

NB>Seriously?

Yes.  Seriously.  The Ice Queen (Janis Kracht) ignores it.
So does her lap dog (Ross Cassell).  As such, P4 is meaningless.

NB>IMHO, which probably means absolutely nothing to you, but shouldn't
NB>a majority vote of the people involved be enough? You can't wait
NB>forever! The vote you just described above in this quote should have
NB>been a "Yes" win.

You do realize the Ice Queen rules by decree...

NB>Can we as a whole group just condone the fact that we don't need
NB>to follow in the footsteps of our (American) failing politics.. and
NB>maybe come up with some of our own? We ARE our own people, right?

Marching in total lockstep with your beloved Ice Queen...

NB>These days, there are plenty of people that keep Fidonet as an
NB>"attraction" to their users, if they have any users at all. Most of
NB>these people don't have a say, nor do they care about the politics
NB>in Fidonet. The people that should have a say these days, are the
NB>people that participate. Obviously there's warnings of a vote, and
NB>netmails of a vote, etc. If they don't respond.. Tough sh*t.

Here is what your beloved Ice Queen's "lap dog" wrote to me some time
back in the Debate echo about my participation in the Fidonews echo -

"Björn has already explained to you the arrangement, he and I have,
want to get around this arrangement, renounce your US citizenship and
move."
- Ross Cassell, Debate echo, 4/9/2010

FYI, Björn Felten has *always* welcomed me, and all, to participate
in this forum.  As I have stated in the past, I do not recognize any
such "arrangements" as having any legitimacy, and any such future
"arrangements" or "gentleman's agreements" will also be duly ignored.
Efforts of censorship should be condemned by all for what they are.
And those who seek to act as censors of Fidonet should be expelled
from this network.

NB>We had damn near, if not all Z1 RCs turn out for the FTSC election.
NB>That's a great sign that when business it to be done, they're willing
NB>to support Fidonet at crunch time, even if we don't see them any
NB>other time.

Condemn the hateful comments Ross Cassell made in regards to me,
Wayne Chirnside, and others.  That will be a start.

NB>This petty arguing over monotonous crap is nerve wrecking.
NB>Put it to a vote.  Put your balls (or ehh, ovaries?) on the plate.
NB>Let's go already!

There is nothing to vote on.  Prove yourself a man by expelling the
sick bastard and his beloved Ice Queen from Fidonet.

--Lee

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