Text 28106, 83 rader
Skriven 2012-04-19 03:56:12 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 28077 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
Ärende: TZUTC Kludge
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19 Apr 12 00:33, Richard Webb wrote to Roy Witt:

 Roy>> Note that I'm a late sleeper (usually until 0830-0900 local) and by
 Roy>> adding 6 to that 0439 time above, it'd be 1039 local time (DST) or
 Roy>> add 5 and it's 0939 CST.

 MvdV>> message is your local time, because that is the convention in
 MvdV>> Fidonet. It would help if your messages displayed a "TZUTZ 0000"
 MvdV>> kludge.

 Roy>> Good advice. See kludges in this message...

 RW> Started using that a few days ago, messages through the
 RW> usenet gate I use had some people complaining about
 RW> time/date confusion.  Guess they needed something to bitch
 RW> and moan about.

Probably.

 RW> This computer clock is also set to utc.  That's for a
 RW> variety of reasons, partially waht I do with ham radio.  I
 RW> haven't set computer clocks to anything but utc voer almost
 RW> 2 decades.

I've used both local and UTC off and on over the years.

 MvdV>> I have this in my golded.cfg: UseTZUTC yes

 MvdV>> The actual value is in the TZUTC environment variable. During
 MvdV>> winter time that is set to 0100 en during DST to 0200.

 RW>>> because it was becoming more and more of a problem figuring out how
 RW>>> many hours difference there were in various zones.

 RW> Right, can see where it would be.  I just ask a friend with
 RW> a dx map, or if I should need it, consult the nodelist to
 RW> see when zmh is for that zone.

That was the confusing part for me. When it's ZMH in Europe and I'm using
a CST clock, what time is ZMH in Europe in CST time? Seven hours ago or
seven hours from now? To hell with it, set the clock at UTC and be done
with all that figuring.

 RW> Still it ensures than when I post a vessel to shiptrak the
 RW> time stamp is consistent with others who use the web
 RW> interface instead of the email interface which I use.

I use the web interface to update the PC, but my CST analog clock is 3
minutes slow and needs a reset. One of these days.

Roy <snip>

 RW>> I see. None of my email recipients have complained about the time
 RW>> stamp in my emails. They probably don't pay any attention to that
 RW>> info anyway. As for local users, all they need to know is the local
 RW>> time on their own computers. I don't see much of a conflict there.

 RW> I've had email recipients over the years complain about
 RW> funny timestamps.  i explain it to 'em and then tell them I
 RW> have no intention of setting the pc clock to local time.
 RW> UTC works.

Yes, it does.

 RW> NOw if TImEd would just use the tzutc kludge without me
 RW> having to do it manually.  tz is set for my tic processor
 RW> and maximus so tz environment variable is used here, but I
 RW> just have a little text file that I can use to paste it into outgoing
 RW> messages from here.  Ads an extra step, but only takes a second or
 RW> two.

Kludges...


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