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Skriven 2012-07-06 07:03:01 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 30774 av Bjorn Felten (2:2448/44)
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05 Jul 12 19:14, Robert Bashe wrote to Bjorn Felten:

 BF>> But I *do* know that the US murder rate is many times higher than in
 BF>> most European countries. And yes, even per capita. Much more than
 BF>> ten times higher than in Scandinavia, for instance.

 RB> Unfortunately true,

Untrue, as the statistics bears out the truth.

The murder rate in some European states is much higher than in the USA.

Russia being the highest, although not entirely in Europe, their stats
indicate nearly 3 times the murder rate of the US.

Russia 14.2/100k population, then there are the western European states of
Estonia 6.6/100k, Latvia 4.4/100k, Lithunaia 8.6/100k, Belarus 5.6/100k,
Moldvia 7.2/100k, Ukraine 5.6/100k.

Meanwhile, the murder rate for the USofA is 5.2/100k...

But if you want to talk about murder rates that are out of site, try
looking at Mexico and those Central American states you didn't know the
whereabouts:

Mexico 11.6/100k, Guatamala 45.2/100k, Honduras 60.8/100k, Belize
34.3/100k, Nicaragua 13/100k, Costa Rica 8.3/100k, Panama 13.3/100k and of
course, South American states like Columbia 40/100k, Venezuela 47.2/100k,
Trinidad & Tobago 39.7/100k or Brazil 21.9/100k...

But if you're really into murder rates, check out the African states ...
some of which are even higher than the above, like the 'civilized' state
of South Africa 36.5/100, or Angola 38.6/100k.

 RB> Until recently, everyone though Norwegians were all law-abiding
 RB> people too. Then the disastrous incident with Mr. Anders Behring
 RB> Breivik came along and showed us that there are crazies in every
 RB> society. I still remember the murders of Olaf Palme and Anna Lindh.

Adding to the Norwegian murder rate of .6/100k...

 RB> I also think more restrictive gun laws would do some good in the
 RB> States,

They can't get anymore restrictive than they are now, without making it a
crime to sell guns. To sell guns, one must run the gauntlet of federal and
state licensing, which isn't easy and requires all kinds of background
checks before one can be licensed. To buy a gun means that one must also
jump through the hurdles of political beauracracy and a pile of paperwork.

 RB> but you have over 200 years of tradition plus the constitution
 RB> against you when you start pushing for such things.

Not protecting our borders from illegal aliens freely crossing the border
with Mexico allows their criminal society to perpetrate violence in the
border states. On the Rio Grande, the drug cartels are so bold as to use
machine guns to fight border patrol, who're armed with pistols and
shotguns. That is changing as you read this, as Texas has implemented gun
boats with .30 and .50 caliber machine guns at the cost of $500k each
to fight off drug cartel criminals...

 RB> The road is long, but I do see some slow improvement (hard to buy an
 RB> assault rifle or machine gun legally in the States nowadays),

An assault rifle is nothing more than a semi-automatic rifle, it just
looks different than what most people would call a rifle. A machine gun
can't be purchased for any amount of money, unless you go through the
licensing and pay the $300 fee for the license. This means that a machine
gun found at the scene of a crime can be traced back to the person it is
licensed to. That's why machine guns are kept in vaults and not displayed.

And it has been this way since 1934, when the law was implemented to
curtail the use of machine guns in a criminal manner, such as you see
portrayed in Hollywood movies.


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