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Text 10488, 69 rader
Skriven 2013-09-26 23:06:18 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 10374 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
Ärende: Putin Blinks
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Hello Alexander,

 LL>> What was the real reason as to why US President Harry S Truman
 LL>> chose to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Remember,
 LL>> the Japanese high command had already offered to surrender, a
 LL>> full month before. The Japanese military had already been
 LL>> defeated, having no more navy, air force, or army to speak of.
 LL>> Most major Japanese cities, including Tokyo, had already been
 LL>> destroyed and reduced to rubble.

 ak>> I believe that this war crime (a mass and indiscriminate killing
 ak>> of civilians is a very severe war crime) was a demonstration of
 ak>> force to the USSR. In June 1945, at Potsdam Conference, Truman
 ak>> boasted of the Abomb before Stalin, but he appeared unimpressed.

 RW>> Actually if you read the real history books about it, Truman did
 RW>> not boast of the Abomb, but did talk about a very powerful weapon
 RW>> that had never been seen in this world before. Stalin, whether he
 RW>> actually knew about the July 1945 test of the Abomb or not before
 RW>> the Potsdam meeting, encouraged Truman to use it to help end the
 RW>> war ASAP.

AK>we can read all versions here:
AK>http://www.dannen.com/decision/potsdam.html

ROTFL!

Please, please, please!  Do not confuse the man!  He is a Texan!
And Texans are *never* wrong!  :)


 ak>      So, Stalin had no idea of Truman's intention and the bomb power.
 ak> Truman could say "We've made a diabolical bomb, and we are going to burn
 ak> alive 200 thousand people from two big Japanese cities. Isn't it great
 ak> news?" Then, probably we could see the real reaction of Stalin. But we
 ak> know Truman's reaction only -- he liked the results of the first bomb so
 ak> much that he decided to drop the second one.

 LL>>>> Russians were wimps, choosing to fight Japan in China. The US
 LL>>>> defeated Japan in Japan, atomizing two heavily populated cities
 LL>>>> in the process. No other country in the world can lay claim to
 LL>>>> doing that.

 ak>>> At Yalta conference, in 1945 (Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill), the
 ak>>> USSR had taken an obligation to declare war on Japan, to help the
 ak>>> US to defeat Japan. That was an agreement, that was a part of
 ak>>> allies military actions. So, it must not be any wonder why the
 ak>>> USSR declared war on Japan in 1945.

 RW>> The Soviet Union's last-minute declaration of war on Japan on
 RW>> August 8 became more a political headache than a military benefit
 RW>> for the U. S. The Soviets saw intervention as an inexpensive way to
 RW>> reap the spoils of war in Japan's final hours. Not to mention
 RW>> revenge for the Japanese annextion of Mancuria to the empire in
 RW>> 1910 and wanted it back. Stalin couldn't give a shit less about
 RW>> helping anyone else.

 ak>      Well, the US could easily refuse from the USSR's help and don't
 ak> discuss it. As one Russian literature character said, "Agreement is the
 ak> product of the sides' non-resistance." ;=)

 ak> Bye, Roy!
 ak> Alexander Koryagin
 ak> fido7.fidonews 2013
 ak> --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds
 ak>   * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2)

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