Text 10572, 72 rader
Skriven 2013-10-06 00:57:41 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 10464 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Putin Blinks
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Hello Mark,

 ML>> there are no rules in a street fight... granted, any fight is
 ML>> different is the involved sides agree to follow certain rules
 ML>> before the fight starts... in this case, there were no rules agreed
 ML>> on, were there?

 ak>> Such rules existed in WW2. If enemy soldiers were taken prisoners
 ak>> they  were not killed, but placed into special camps; although, it
 ak>> would have  been much simpler to get rid off them and don't bother
 ak>> yourself with  their feeding etc. People from Red Cross visited
 ak>> prisoners. Participants  of WW2 did not use chemical bombs even
 ak>> when they wanted to gain a  victory very much, as, for instance,
 ak>> did Hitler while sieging Leningrad.

ML>or when it came to the jewish people...

Nobody cared much about the Jews.  Hitler told the world to take them
in, and the world refused.  So what was Hitler to do?  He gave them a
place to live in ghettos, and provided jobs for them in work camps.  Of
course, some of those undocumented workers made their way to Palestine
where the British ran the show ...

 ML>> consider this second bomb drop to be no more than one last final
 ML>> kick to the ribs of the downed loser to make sure they stay down
 ML>> and know they are beaten in that particular fight... this is a
 ML>> common occurance in all street fights AFAIK...

 ak>> IMHO it's a different matter. You can hate your enemy, but is it a
 ak>> sufficient reason for setting his whole town on fire together with
 ak>> all  sleeping women and children? It is something beyond humanity,
 ak>> and it is  extremely important, especially if you defend humanity
 ak>> yourself.

ML>the crass and callous would call them "collateral damage"...

How many innocent men, women and children have to die due to drones
being controlled by soldiers half the world away holding joy sticks?
War is not a video game, as so many people like to think.

ML>they could have left but they did not so they must have supported
ML>their government's activities which also indicates that they accept
ML>whatever happens in retaliation...

They were just following orders ...

ML>in a sense, they were all soldiers...

And what is the duty of a soldier?  To follow orders.  That is what
they are taught.  That is what they do.  Except when they lose their
heads and start shooting their own comrades on base ...

ML>especially if they were building war machines and supplying
ML>materials for the war effort...

Soldiers do not build the war machines.  They just use them,
maintain them, and junk them.

ML>and yes, that goes for all people on all sides...

Our soldiers took home "souvenirs" - in every war.  It is not
something most soldiers like to talk about, or admit.  But truth
be known, American soldiers are no different than German soldiers
or Japanese soldiers or Vietnamese soldiers ...

"Any forces that wish to impose their will on other nations will
certainly face failure." - Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap, R.I.P.

--Lee

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