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Skriven 2014-03-24 00:20:00 av Bill McGarrity (5379.2fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 13023 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Re: The `Global Warming'
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-=> TIM RICHARDSON wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-


 TR> Ah....McGarrity! The guy I recently chased into his `twit filter'!


LOL... chased me.. I've been reading your drival all along... you're just one
of those who believes everything they read.  I've told you, to me you're the
best comedian on Fidonet....  but I'll not bother with your rebuttal to my
nonsense over your nonsense.  One question I have to you is being you seem the
"gubmint" is so behind climate change, why not just leave the country to one
that agrees with your findings?  Oh wait, there are none. Oh well...  

Regarding the sun driving our weather, no one has denied that fact but now that
you mention it, what are the effects of hydrocarbons on the atmosphere that
protects us from the harmful radiation of the sun? isn't it the Stratospheric
Ozone layer?  Just some basic chemistry for you to read Tim... on how
hydrocarbons effect it...

http://www.pnas.org/content/100/21/11975.full

Oh, if you can't understand it I'm sure the folks at Briebart will explain it
to you.

All the rest of your drival is based on reporting by another source that takes
the news as entertainment.  Once you, or for that matter, I can state from
first hand experience and testing either side of the arguement, I'd rather err
on the side that sees the damage as creditable.  Face it Tim, do you really
care what happens.  Both of us are old and we'll never see the total effects
but are you willing to take that chance with your future family members?  If I
were you, I'd be more concerned with the Koch brothers trying to buy this
country right out from beneth us.  Dedicate your vast "knowledge" into that
part of the equation. 

I just left the rest of your drival here so no one can say I edited or took
comments out of context with your remarks.

Enjoy!!   

 TR> Low and behold! Vindication at last!


 TR> Here's some recent and near-past information from some VERY prominent
 TR> people in the field, that backs up my long-held opinion that `climate
 TR> change-nee- global warming' is one of the biggest con jobs ever foisted
 TR> on taxpayers world-wide!


 TR> Now...in keeping with this echo's policy of not posting up long,
 TR> involved articles, I will only provide commentary on the information I
 TR> have uncovered, quite by accident, that is readily available to anyone
 TR> who reads the following informative current news sites


 TR> The Drudge Page

 TR> Breitbart.com

 TR> Townhall.com


 BM>This alone tells me the rest is just humourous drival....


 TR> What you meant was; those sites post up the truth which counters the
 TR> lies, distortions, mis-information, and blathering bullshit the leftist
 TR> mainstream media floods the news cycles with!


 TR> For those of you who have scoffed at my skepticism and opposition to
 TR> the `climate change-nee-global warming' scam....prepare to get a stick
 TR> shoved in your eye:


 TR> Ever hear of the American Physical Society?


 TR> Neither had I till just recently.


 TR> Seems its an organization that touted (until recently) `Man's' being
 TR> the root cause of `global warming'.


 TR> Its members were highly-regarded physicists and meteorologist, who were
 TR> strong believers in the `global warming-nee-climate change' thing.


 TR> But...here's the point of this post;


 TR> Recall, if you will, that I have been saying all along that it isn't
 TR> now, nor has it EVER been about actual `global warming-nee-climate
 TR> change'; it was always about MONEY!


 TR> Firstly, many highly credible physicist members of the today's
 TR> scientific community have described this `global `warming-nee-climate
 TR> change' as a `scam' just as I have been doing for several years, now!


 TR> For instance, Professor Richard Lindzen, formerly of MIT, a highly
 TR> regarded phyicist, described `climate change' alarmism on the Larry
 TR> King show as being like"...little kids locking themselves in a dark
 TR> closet to see how much they can scare each other and themselves."!


 BM>Richard Lindzen... is one of the approximately 3 percent of climate
 BM>scientists who believe the human influence on global warming is relatively
 BM>small (though Lindzen is now retired, no longer doing scientific
 BM>research). More importantly, he's been wrong about nearly every major
 BM>climate argument he's made over the past two decades. Lindzen is arguably
 BM>the climate scientist who's been the wrongest, longest.


 BM>The Weekly Standard... a deep rooted conservative news... devotes the
 BM>first page of its piece to establishing how smart Lindzen is u and he
 BM>certainly is a smart man, but as climate scientist Ray Pierrehumbert put
 BM>it, "It's okay to be wrong, and [Lindzen] is a smart person, but most
 BM>people don't really understand that one way of using your intelligence is
 BM>to spin ever more clever ways of deceiving yourself, ever more clever ways
 BM>of being wrong. And that's okay because if you are wrong in an interesting
 BM>way that advances the science, I think it's great to be wrong, and he has
 BM>made a career of being wrong in interesting ways about climate science."


 BM>Nuff said there....


 TR> *Ray Pierrehumbert*:


 TR> The Louis Block Professor of geophysical sciences at the University of
 TR> Chicago, which, in spite of the huge economic downturn of the US since
 TR> BO (as in `bad odor') was elected president. Pierrehumbert was also the
 TR> lead author on the IPCCThird Assessment Report, and also a co-author of
 TR> the National Research Council report on abrupt climate change.


 TR> The IPCC was set up by the United Nations back in about 1988 or
 TR> there-abouts, is paid for by funds coming from taxpayers of several
 TR> countries, and, obviously, if `climate change-nee-global warming' is
 TR> fully exposed as the rip -off scam that it is, people like
 TR> Pierrehumbert are out of funds from that source.


 TR> Also... he directs the Climate Systems Center, which recieved a $3.6
 TR> million dollar grant from the National Science Foundation.


 TR> The National Science Foundation is a U.S. government agency.


 TR> In other words...Pierrehumbert is awash in taxpayer money!


 TR> And `what' do people awash in taxpayer money *find*? They *find* what
 TR> will bring in even MORE taxpayer money, of course!


 TR> Nuff said there....


 TR> John Christy, profdessor of atmospheric science, university of Alabama,
 TR> Huntsville: "...I see neither the developing catastrophe nor the
 TR> smoking gun proving that human activity is to blame for most of  the
 TR> warming we see..."


 BM>Christy released a study that claimed snowfall in the Sierra Nevada has
 BM>remained consistent for 130 years, with no noticeable effect from climate
 BM>change.


 BM>David Pearce, one of John Christy's colleagues, feels that Christy has
 BM>gone beyond the data in his study, and that Christy is making claims in
 BM>the media that have not been backed up by the study itself. Pearce adds
 BM>that it ois unfortunate because peer-review is the process that filters
 BM>out unsupported personal opinion from what is backed by evidence.o


 BM>Guess that covers that one...


 TR> From Farmer's Almanac, dated February 22, 2014:


 TR> RestoringHistory.US


 TR> Shared publicly  -  Feb 22, 2014


 TR> #GlobalWarming


 TR> #ClimateChange


 TR> "As John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the
 TR> Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville,
 TR> has noted, global temperatures collected in five official databases
 TR> confirm that there's been no statistically significant global warming
 TR> for the past 17 years - contradicting the predictions made by 73
 TR> computer models cited in the United Nations' latest (wrong) global
 TR> warming report."


 TR> Farmers' Almanac More Reliable Than Warming Climate Models


 TR> Judith Curry, Chair of the Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia
 TR> Tech: Testified to the US House Sub-committed on the Environment that:
 TR> "...the uncertainties in forecasting climate science are much greater
 TR> than the alarmists will admit."


 BM>Here's a link to show disprover her erroneous comments...


 BM>http://www.skepticalscience.com/curry-ohc-corrections.html


 TR> There are so many `anti-Judith Curry sites out there it isn't even
 TR> funny! It would be too time-consuming to list them all here.


 TR> They mostly attack her because she counters a lot of the
 TR> mis-information her hottest critics are attacking her over.


 TR> Here's a few for-instances:


 TR> The `global warming' the pseudo-scientists have hung their hats (and
 TR> government (make that read `taxpayer') funding) on was nothing more
 TR> than ordinary climate changes that have been going on for millions of
 TR> years on the Earth and in the Solar System. The so-called `global
 TR> warming' scientists point to the year 2010 as a `sure sign' that global
 TR> warming is real. But...just how long has yearly temperatures been
 TR> getting RECORDED, as opposed to the number of years Man has roamed the
 TR> Earth?


 TR> Another example:


 TR> When Curry openly admitted that scientists tried to hide the decline in
 TR> global temperatures, she was immediately attacked from all sides.

 TR> Most, if not all, her attackers are either in committed
 TR> `taxpayer-funded' climate study programs, or recieve funds from such.


 TR> Quite obviously, should those funds `dry up' due to it being exposed
 TR> that this so-called `global warming-nee-climate change' is nothing more
 TR> than a scam to bilk money from taxpayers to pay for pseudo-careers in
 TR> `climatology', the money just may dry up!


 TR> When Curry said that the IPCC was being `alarmist'...it is pointed out
 TR> that "...numerous papers have documented how IPCC predictions are more
 TR> likely to underestimate the climate response."


 TR> But....who `writes' these papers? Don't tell me people who have a
 TR> vested interest in government (make that read `taxpayer') funding
 TR> continuing? No!


 TR> And when Curry says "...there is no consensus." the response is "...97%
 TR> of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming."


 TR> Two questions:


 TR> How many of that `97%' are in study programs on the climate that is
 TR> funded by some government (make that read `taxpayers')?


 TR> Secondly...when did these so-called `experts' lose sight of the fact
 TR> that the Sun, and its internal-external activity, is what mainly drives
 TR> our weather? And you can get information on that in any well-stocked
 TR> public library!


 BM>Happy reading...


 TR> Happy reading!


 BM>Guess that covers that one....


 TR> So much for that one.


 TR> And one of the APS's most distinguished members, professor Hal Lewis,
 TR> resigned in disgust over what he called the APS's endorsement of
 TR> "...the global warming scam...!." That, by the way, was around three
 TR> years back. I bet you heard very little, if anything, about that in the
 TR> mainstream media!


 BM>Ahhh... the best till last...


 BM>The letter, written by Harold Lewis, emeritus professor of physics at the
 BM>University of California, Santa Barbara accused the society of benefiting
 BM>financially from climate-change funding. Addressed to the APS president,
 BM>Curtis Callan, the letter calls global warming a "scam" and says that "the
 BM>(literally) trillions of dollars driving it...has carried APS before it
 BM>like a rogue wave".


 TR> And I wonder why the storm of protest is so strong over his exposing
 TR> the scam?


 BM>He adds that Princeton University physics department,
 BM>of which Callan is chair, "would lose millions a year if the global
 BM>warming bubble burst."


 TR> Ah...but is he right?


 BM>Callan strongly denies that charge.


 TR> Of COURSE he strongly denies it! Millions of dollars are at stake!


 BM>"Do any members
 BM>of the Princeton physics department perform research on subjects even
 BM>remotely related to climate science? No,o Callen told physicsworld.com.
 BM>oWould a hypothetical physicist engaged in such work be likely to shade
 BM>the results of his or her work to hew to some "party line" demanded by a
 BM>funding agency? That would be contrary to the ethical code subscribed to
 BM>by all scientists I know." Now here's the kicker (or should I say stomping
 BM>his feet because he didn't get his way).  Lewis is also one of the 160
 BM>physicists who last year failed to persuade the society to modify its
 BM>formal statement on climate change.  So let's see... out of 50,000 members
 BM>who belong to the American Physical Society, 160 want to change/modify its
 BM>stance.  That's .0032% Better do your homework/research a little more
 BM>deeply that relying on Briebart's twist.


 TR> The `gentleman doth protest too much'! (to paraphrase someone or other)


 BM>Enjoy....and have fun on your three week rant over this post.  I'm just
 BM>going to sit back and laugh like I normally do with your morality issues
 BM>over our past discussion.  You should really get out and hit the comedy
 BM>club circuit. Bill


 TR> `Three-week' rant? I'm gonna give this all the attention it deserves!


 TR> PPPPPPBBBBBBBBBTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 TR> The bottom line was, is, and will remain:


 TR> Global warming-nee-climate change was, and continues to be, a scam.


 TR> It was finally revealed as what it was by a few people at East Anglia
 TR> getting too arrogant and free-tongued in some of their e-mails.


 TR> By the way....this is heading toward the end of March. A large part of
 TR> the nation is still buried in snow and ice!


 TR> ON the other hand...California, Arizona and New Mexico have been rather
 TR> dry this year. Many of these `records' only go back about one hundred
 TR> years.


 TR> The Earth is over four BILLION years old! Weather patterns,
 TR> temperatures, and various climates here and there on the Earth, have
 TR> been `changing' since before Man even existed!


 TR> Its just that only recently (the last forty or so years) that some
 TR> people have learned that, if you point to weather patterns, make up a
 TR> good story to FIT your little scam....taxpayers can be bilked out of
 TR> millions (if not BILLIONS) of their money for your benefit! A few
 TR> politicians in the right places...a few `computer model' presentations
 TR> shown in the right places....and viola! taxpayer money comes pouring in
 TR> to pay for twenty and thirty year `careers' in `climatology'! Neat!


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