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Text 14128, 317 rader
Skriven 2014-04-06 15:11:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BILL MCGARRITY
Ärende: Re: The `Global Warming'
================================
On 04-05-14, BILL MCGARRITY said to TIM RICHARDSON:

-=> TIM RICHARDSON wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-



BM> Funny, the report I gave you seemed to have a different outcome.

BM>I have come to the firm belief you have a case of a severe reading
BM>comprehention disorder, either that or the straw hat with the dangling tea
BM>bags is cutting off circulation to your brain.


TR> Your `beliefs' have proven ill-founded and un-supportable in the past,
TR> and this time will be no different, I'm sure.


BM>Oh? I've given proof on all my statements and all you do is run in
BM>circles.


You've `proven' nothing except your in-ability (or `refusal') to evaluate the
available information for yourself, and see the lies, distortions, and
falacious claims and junk science those who are only interested in the
taxpayer dollars continuing to flow into `studies' and `programs' that they've
made an entire career off of, diseminate to those who blindly accept their
pronouncements without checking it out for themselves.


BM>Now try to follow me.  I promise I talk more S L O W L Y.....


Its like a compulsive gambler; they KNOW they're being cheated...they KNOW the
game is rigged against them...but they continue to gamble and lose; because
its the only game in town!


TR> Snip!


TR> Your continued support for something that has been shown, by the
TR> revelations of the VERY ones who've been scamming the world all those
TR> year, to be a complete fraud!


TR> There have been far to many lies about global warming exposed, to
TR> support any further adherence to the theory.


BM>So you're putting your eggs in the basket of the 3%?  More brilliance!!


It has nothing to do with `brilliance'! It has to do with common sense. An
exposed pack of lies is exactly that! An exposed pack of lies! We were
cheated! Lied to. Led by so-called `scientists', who's greed was the only
`truth' to the whole `global warming' scam!


TR> There is even a paper out that completely supports *lying* about it,
TR> claiming that its `good to lie'!


BM>"A" paper.. lol.. what about the thousands that say it's reality?


"A" paper written by the very ones who are in YOUR corner! This paper isn't by
some single, or group, of deny'ers. Its by one of the VERY ONES who are
pushing this `climate change-nee-gloal warming' BS.


BM>Sticking head in sand again Tim?


You need to get some reading comprehension. *I'm* not the one with my `head in
the sand.


TR> Well....they don't come right out and CALL it lying. They are more
TR> guarded in the way they support the lies. They refer to it as
TR> `information manipulation'!


BM>Naturally, they have no confidence in their findings so they just "hint"
BM>around the fact getting people like you all worked up.


*They* seem to have all sorts of `confidence' in their statement. By the
way... its not *findings*...its those who have been running this `climate
change-nee-global warming' scam. It is one of THEM who wrote this paper,
outlining one of their favorite tactics; lies...exagerations...distortions..
.and manipulation of the data to enhance the `doomsday' quality of their false
claims.


BM>Sorta like what FauxEntertainment and Breitbart do.  More brilliance!


No...more like the cheats at East Anglia, the liars and control freaks at the
UN, the false, punched-up reports of the IPCC, and the entire group of
democrats who sign onto this to justify doling out taxpayer money for it, and
gaining votes in return.


TR> Their underlying purpose is `Global Welfare'! And they seem to feel
TR> that a science built on lies is OK, as long as its outcome is `Global
TR> Welfare'!


TR> Their biggest problem is maintaining their credibility in the face of
TR> Nature's refusal to cooperate with their doomsday predictions! It seems
TR> the Sun and Mother Nature ain't falling into line with all these `dir


TR> straits' preachers.


BM>How so?  Just because it's COLD out doesn't mean the changes aren't
BM>happening.


Of COURSE `changes' happen! Nobody says they don't! But they have NOTHING to
do with anything MAN is doing,,,or HAS done! Nothing!


They are all very normal. They have to do with the activities both on the
surface, and the interior of the Sun. As well as a lot of other factors having
to do with Earth's slowly shifting orbital attitude in relation to the Sun and
the rest of the material in the Solar System. Which have been going on for
millions of years.


BM>You see you're so self-centerd on the term "warming" and in
BM>your pea brain that's all you can focus on.


It was not *I* who came up with the term *global warming*.


And it was not *I* who tried to quickly morph it into *climate change* when
the *warming* part proved itself false!


Democrat leftists are always quick to anger when they get held to their *own*
terms!


You cannot jump from one boat to a different boat in mid-stream. *Global
warming* they named it...and for all time *global warming* it shall be!


They are upset because the entire notion is unraveling. right before their
eyes! Nature and the mechanics of Solar processes refuse to cooperate with
them. They are now trying to cover their confusion.


TR> But something tells me that this whole thing is going to unravel soon,
TR> and all those government grants are going to start drying up!

BM>You using the same psychic that Reagan used? Let me know how that works

BM>out.


TR> We just experienced one of the coldest, snowiest winters on
TR> record. Its gonna be a little difficult for `climate scientists' for
TR> awhile, fund-wise.


BM>Again, statements based on emotion due to the term "warming".


No `emotion' involved....except on *your* side. Ever watch Al Gore when he
gets wound up on the subject? He gets all red in the face and stumbles over
his words and sentences! He's a hoot to watch. You're taking on a lot of his
`qualities'.


Tell me something, Bill; why is it that, whenever Al Gore is waxing
`informative' on his *climate change-nee-global warming* theme...and someone
tries to ask him questions about it, or points out some counter-information of
what Gore claims...he just walks off the stage, or completely ignores any
questions and talks on as though nobody asked anything?


If its so `real'....why isn't Gore willing to answer questions about it, or
reply to information that is contrary to what he claims?



BM>Tell me Tim, what about the California drought?


Did you know there are over 100 federally-recognized Indian tribes in
California?


And did you know there are areas in California where no Indian tribe EVER
lived?


Do you know why?


*Drought* has been a part of the California climate for THOUSANDS of years!


BM>Tim, think of the BIGGER picture (I know, it's difficult).


Bill, think of the BIGGER picture. I'm sorry its so difficult for you to do
so, but not everyone has that problem.


The only reason the `drought' has such an effect on California is for the same
reason hurricanes are said to be more `deadly' and more `costly' now-a-days.


It isn't because the storms are *worse*. Nor is the `drought'.


There is a reason Indian tribes didn't live very close to the coast back in
hurricane country.


Because hurricanes devastated coastal areas when they came along!


There is a reason why Indian tribes didn't live in some areas of California.


Because drought conditions were regular and severe in some areas of
California!


BM>The US is only 2% of the earth's surface and if
BM>you'd get out of your tunnel-visioned stupor, you'd see the effects on
BM>other parts of the world.


It is only when settlers and immigrants from other parts of the world came and
settled those areas, built up those areas, farmed those areas...that the
severe conditions of huge storms or severe drought conditions suddenly became
important.


Take the sea coast on the Eastern Seaboard.


Centuries ago there were still hurricanes there. Just like today.


But centuries ago there wasn't 30 or 40 billion dollars worth of housing,
construction, commercial buildings, motor vehicles, etc etc, there either!


Same with the drought areas in California. Centuries ago, even the Indians
didn't try to grow anything in certain areas of California.


Nobody forced a farmer to obtain huge tracts of land, turn it into acres and
acres of lettuce fields, or citrus orchards, only to have huge financial
losses due to a condition coming along that has been as regular as clock work
for centuries and centuries: drought!


Also...the state of California with its `water' regulations, contributes to
that loss in a big way also, by denying farmers the water they need to keep
crops from withering from lack of water.


BM>I hate to break this to you but the world
BM>doesn't revolve around you or your beliefs the US is the only country in
BM>the world dealing with these issues.


I hate to break this to you Bill, but weather patterns and climate that has
existed for thousands upon thousands of years, and will continue to do so for
thousands more, do not bend themselves to conform with the silly notions  and
out and out lies of the Al Gore's of the world, and the cadre of pseudo-
scientist who found a way to squeeze careers and retirements out of hard-
working taxpayers.


Right now Australia is seeing record
BM>breaking heat.  I'll not focus on that as "extremes" only dulls the senses
BM>of reality.  So you know, "weather" isn't the climate. As was said in a
BM>Purdue (you know, that University) statement: Global warming doesnAt imply
BM>an end to winter as we know it because it isnAt that local of a trend. By
BM>its very nature, climate change is global and long-term. ItAs still very
BM>possible for there to be cold weather while the overall temperature trend
BM>is upwards. Little too difficult for you to understand? I won't even say
BM>dismissed... you already know you are.


So far....you've presented nothing that *proves* much of anything. Only
presented the same old tired false information the *climate change-nee-global
warming* pretenders have been spouting for years. Along with insults, put-
downs, and sand-box level pronouncements, interspersed in what you (no doubt)
consider to be an `intelligent' exchange of thoughts and opinions.


So...as in the discussion in another echo on the subject of the Sodomites and
sodomy....you only have insults, twisting words, and phoney attempts to make
me out as having said or meant something *you* put up as reality.


Maybe you should `dismiss' yourself, since you cannot carry on a conversation
without resorting to childish hatefullness.


Bye!



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