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Text 15199, 115 rader
Skriven 2014-05-12 23:19:00 av Bill McGarrity (7513.2fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 15198 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: Re: Voting (new voting sy
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-=> Ross Cassell wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

 RC> @MSGID: <53717C63.7512.2fidonews@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
 RC> Hello Bill!

 RC> 12 May 14 19:47, you wrote to me:

 RC>> The beard thing is more than likely part of that brand.. But
 RC>> again those people are quite real..

 BM> it's a marketing scheme.

 RC> Just like the costumes and the getup were marketting schemes for KISS..

 RC> What about Hooters marketting scheme..

 RC> The Gekko for Geico?

 RC> What is your point..

My point is they created those characters to fit the mold of a typical southern
Louisana backwoods "country folk".  Did I say there was anything wrong with
them?

 RC>> So except for the silliness of the TV show, whats not real about
 RC>> them?

 BM> The squeaky clean image they portray.  A statement was said by Phil
 BM> which seems to have illuded another member here, in referencing
 BM> homosexuality as a gateway to beastiality. That's the reason the gay
 BM> community was upset. The entire picture is rather disturbing being
 BM> that Phil was not such an upstanding citizen many years ago.  One


 RC> I guess you lieberal types have a script those of faith must follow,
 RC> but balk when the tables are turned???

Only script I follow is that what the Lord said, Love thy neighbor as yourself.
 It's taken from the book that most religious zealots like to quote, Liviticus.
 

 RC> For instance you lieberal types fancy yourselves the party of
 RC> compassion and tolerance, yet not a one of you will tolerate a view
 RC> that differs from your own...

I tolerate all views as long as it's not a view that goes against the rule I
stated above.  Phil wasn't following that rule when he made his statements. He
was in a way, bearing false witness. Another strike.

 RC> In the Phil Robertson case, his viewpoints on the subject were a
 RC> no-brainer before that interview..

Oh really?  Then why even state them in an interview?  If everyone knew his
views then why the interview?  If he would have come out and said he doesn't
believe in homosexuality yet will be tolerent of those who are then I would
have had more respect for the man and his "views".  Plus ther are many others
who's views are quite positive with regard to gay and lesbians yet their views
aren't tolerated by the right wing. Case in point, Robertson's statement in the
interview.  Was there tolerance? 

 RC> You see Bill, you lieberals have this script everyone else must follow
 RC> and if anyone dare stray, POW!

No, the only script I follow as stated above is to treat and love a neighbor as
one would expect to be treated and loved.  Stray from those words and I'll say
something about it.  Again, if Phil was trying to evangelize then he should
have taken the same path as the Lord. 

 RC> You know, I remember how you liberals tried to fry Clarence Thomas over
 RC> the Anita Hill thing, yet the same lot of you defended slick willy over
 RC> his transgressions. See how your hypocrisy works?

Did you ever see me make that statement? Probably not.  So your point is moot,
hypocrisy and all.  BTW, wasn't he impeached over that matter?  Clarence is
still sitting on the bench isn't he? See how hipocrisy works?? 


 RC> Oh and as far as not being able to throw stones.... I used to smoke, I
 RC> smoked quite heavily for a long time.... I no longer smoke, and have
 RC> been smoke free for over 3 years now.. The fact that I used to smoke
 RC> doesnt disqualify me from preaching the anti-smoking line, etc..

Preaching the anti-smoking line in a helpful way, not a problem.  Preaching it
in a way where you chastize and discredit the other person saying his smoking
will one day lead to beastility or some other derogatory remark is something
completely different. As your boy Timmy would say, your gotcha moment failed
miserably.  

 RC> So Phil Robertson can speak out on the present and future, whether he
 RC> follows your script or not.

Sure he can, just as long as he follows the rules handed down by the very
Person he's preaching for. Stray from those rules and you're not following the
Lord's way thus he should be chastized over his remarks.  Hopefully he has seen
the errors of his ways and became a better man for it with a better
understanding.    

You see Ross, when you become a public figure you are bound by certain
guidelines regarding what and who you portray.  No one has an issue on how he
feels about homosexuality but the issue lies in the way he said it .  Is that
so hard to follow?


Bill

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