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Skriven 2014-05-14 17:19:00 av Bill McGarrity (7554.2fidonews)
Kommentar till text 15223 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
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-=> TIM RICHARDSON wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-
TR> On 05-12-14, BILL MCGARRITY said to ROSS CASSELL:
RC> I guess you lieberal types have a script those of faith must follow,
RC> but balk when the tables are turned???
BM>Only script I follow is that what the Lord said, Love thy neighbor as
BM>yourself. It's taken from the book that most religious zealots like to
BM>quote, Liviticus.
TR> That doesn't mean its telling anyone they HAVE to support homosexuality
TR> (sodomy). In fact...that very same volume to which you refer condemns
TR> `sodomy' in pretty clear terms.
It means love them for whoever they are. Period....
RC> For instance you lieberal types fancy yourselves the party of
RC> compassion and tolerance, yet not a one of you will tolerate a view
RC> that differs from your own...
BM>I tolerate all views as long as it's not a view that goes against the rule
BM>I stated above. Phil wasn't following that rule when he made his
BM>statements. He was in a way, bearing false witness. Another strike.
TR> Not so. You aren't very smart, are you? Here's another attempt at
TR> cooking up a `nothing' burger on your part.
Oh, he compared homosexuality on par with beastiality.
RC> In the Phil Robertson case, his viewpoints on the subject were a
RC> no-brainer before that interview..
BM>Oh really? Then why even state them in an interview?
TR> Ever hear of the First Amendment? Wasn't that *you* asking someone that
TR> very question recently?
First Amendement rights do have consequences....
BM>If everyone knew his views then why the interview?
BM>If he would have come out and said he
BM>doesn't believe in homosexuality yet will be tolerent of those who are
BM>then I would have had more respect for the man and his "views".
TR> He did. You (and a lot of other people) just chose not to understand
TR> what he said. Or `pretended' you didn't. You (like the rest of the
TR> sodomite crowd and their cheering section) tried to make `something'
TR> out of nothing.
Don't think so...
BM>Plus ther
BM>are many others who's views are quite positive with regard to gay and
BM>lesbians yet their views aren't tolerated by the right wing. Case in
BM>point, Robertson's statement in the interview. Was there tolerance?
TR> He never said anything that was actually offensive. At least not to
TR> ordinary people. Only the sodomite crowd came apart at the seams over a
TR> `percieved' offense!
TR> What did he actually say?
TR> He said:
TR> "Everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong. Sin becomes
TR> fine. Start with homosexual behavior and morph out from there.
TR> Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that
TR> woman and those men."
He compared homosexuality to beastiality? Are you that blind?
TR> "Don't be decieved. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male
TR> prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the
TR> slanderers, the swindlers - they won't inherit the kingdom of God.
TR> Don't decieve yourselves. Its not right."
How does he know they won't inherit the Kindom of God? Psychic?
TR> Thats all he said.
That's all he had to say... but you fail to see the significance.. which is you
being you as usual.
TR> And the sodomite corner came unglued!
RC> You see Bill, you lieberals have this script everyone else must follow
RC> and if anyone dare stray, POW!
BM>No, the only script I follow as stated above is to treat and love a
BM>neighbor as one would expect to be treated and loved.
TR> But...you say that, and yet your posts in Fido tell a far different
TR> story about you.
Take you for instance, I don't hate you and I respect your views as long as
those views aren't taking away from another's rights. You feel if you don't
agree with things then it must be bad and you condemn it just as Phil had done.
No one on the face of this earth knows who will and who will not enter the
Kingdom of God.... it's that simple.
BM> Stray from those words and I'll say something about it.
TR> You mean....speak a word of opposition to the notion that males sucking
TR> other male's cocks, or buggering each other up the shitshut, is the
TR> next best thing since Hoover vacuum cleaners....and be forever
TR> ostracized! Or say one word of dissent against women doing nose nuzzles
TR> on each other's crotch, and get a ton of hate-filled condemnation!
Don't way anything and let them live their own life. You complain about them
"forcing" their chosen lifestyle on you yet you're the type who are
consistantly brow beating them to the point they have to respond. Basic
physics... Newton's Third Law.... For every action, there is an equal and
opposite reaction. Let them live as they chose and they'lllet you live. Is
that so hard for you to understand?
BM>Again, if Phil was trying to
BM>evangelize then he should have taken the same path as the Lord.
TR> He did.
No he didn't. He insulted them.
RC> So Phil Robertson can speak out on the present and future, whether he
RC> follows your script or not.
BM>Sure he can, just as long as he follows the rules handed down by the very
BM>Person he's preaching for.
TR> Problem is *you* don't know what you're talking about.
I know exactly what I'm talking about. It's you who finds falt in everything
and one. Compassion is not one of your stronger suits.
TR> There are several places in the Bible where homosexual (sodomite)
TR> activity is clearly condemned and forbidden.
Fine, then let God deal with it. Last time I looked neither you or Phil had
the title God.
BM>Stray from those rules and you're not following
BM>the Lord's way thus he should be chastized over his remarks. Hopefully he
BM>has seen the errors of his ways and became a better man for it with a
BM>better understanding.
TR> The `real' problem is the sodomite crowd don't like the fact that
TR> Christianity is clearly and un-comprimizingly AGAINT the act of sodomy
TR> of both the male AND female variety.
Funny, didn't Pope Francis just prove your statement above false? Keep up Tim.
TR> I want to draw your attention to something (again)....I've said this
TR> before and I'll say it again here;
TR> The religion of Islam is STRONGLY against the practice of male-male or
TR> female -female sodomy.
Fine, doesn't make it right.
TR> Some countries have even legislated AGAINST homosexual activity of
TR> EITHER brand!
Doesn't make them right either. As you've previously stated quite forcefully,
YOU don't give a rats ass about other countries... so why start now?
TR> In all this controversy in various echoes, I've never seen you or your
TR> fellow Fido supporters of the sodomite lifestyle come out openly and
TR> CONDEMN either those countries OR Islam for its strong opposition to
TR> homosexuals\sodomites!
I just did above....
BM>You see Ross, when you become a public figure you are bound by certain
BM>guidelines regarding what and who you portray.
TR> Which, to you and your fellow sodomite-supporters means...YOUR
TR> `guidelines', right?
Nope, God's...
TR> In other words....cross lines that YOU draw....and you explode in loud
TR> protest AND censorship, right?
Again, the Lord's first law... Love thy neighbor...
BM>No one has an issue on how he feels about homosexuality but the issue lies
BM>in the way he said it.
TR> Well....I thought he said what he said in pretty easy language.
He did.... comparing homosexuality to beastiality. You can't see the issue with
that?
TR> The reaction of the sodomite segment of society was what it ALWAYS is;
TR> completely out of proportion to the `percieved' offense. Overblown,
TR> outrageous, and typical sodomite-like over-kill!
And if someone accused you of beastiality?? What would your reaction be?
BM>Is that so hard to follow?
TR> In other words....`Fall in line! Shut up! Get with the program! Or get
TR> censored!' No....thats not hard to follow. What REALLY piss's you off
TR> is, there's a lot of people out here who refuse to go along. Won't be
TR> silenced.
Have I censored you? What pisses you off there are more and more who approve
of gay rights and that is driving you the the point of insanity!! Remember, the
First Amendment has consequences.
TR> Phil Robertson is one of them. And so am I.
Sorry to say, today you're both becoming a silient minority.
Toodles!!
Bill
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