Text 15534, 76 rader
Skriven 2014-05-23 15:57:00 av Bill McGarrity (7844.2fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 15515 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Re: Voting (new voting sy
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-=> TIM RICHARDSON wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-

 TR> On 05-21-14, BILL MCGARRITY said to ROY WITT:


 RW> Still, as Commander in Chief of US military forces, he was a failure.
 RW> Remember the Bay of Pigs failed invasion of Cuba? That was his baby.


 BM>Actually the Bay of Pigs was Ike's baby.  he was the one who got the CIA
 BM>ball rolling so to speak but JFK did sign off on it.  That could probably
 BM>be due to his advisors and the pressure from the highly organized Cuban
 BM>lobby.  Either way, it was a mistake.


 TR> Kennedy failed the operation as commander-in-chief, by getting cold
 TR> feet at a crucial moment in the operation, which caused it to collapse
 TR> into a debacle!


 TR> It was a well-thought-out plan by a military leader (Eisenhower) who
 TR> knew what he was doing. He did, by the way, have some small experience
 TR> in the area of invasions from the sea (Operation Torch in North
 TR> Africa...Operation Husky; invasion of Sicily...then the invasion of the
 TR> Italian Boot itself...Operation Overlord; the invasion of France), so
 TR> having been Supreme Allied Commander, and now being Commander-In-Chief
 TR> of all US forces (as well as being president), naturally the plan would
 TR> have worked out nicely had it been followed closely.

No one is doubting the expertise of Eisenhower, so no need to put him on parade
just to hear yourself talk. 
 
 TR> However, a change of administration took place, and Kennedy wasn't up
 TR> to the task.

No one is doubting that either.

 TR> He failed to provide the necessary air power to help secure the
 TR> beachhead that was first established. Eisenhower understood the
 TR> importance of full support of the invading units once they were on the
 TR> beach. Kennedy didn't. As a Commander-In-Chief, Kennedy was a pretty
 TR> good PT-boat commander (if you get my drift) and failed the invading
 TR> forces utterly.

 TR> Kennedy OWNS the failure...and also owns the terrible murders,
 TR> tortures, executions, hunger, base living conditions that have
 TR> prevailed in Cuba since!

The CIA should be the ones that "own" this failure in the first place. Kennedy
wanted plausable deniability and one other little fact that was withheld, Allen
Dullas and Richard Bissell never told Kennedy there were 200,000 troops
available to Castro which had little problem in dealing with 1,300 Cuban
exiles. Remember, these "exiles" were CIA trained and we all know how the CIA
trains people who are considered collateral expendatures. Plus the press leaked
the entire plan beforehand. Kennedy knew he made a mistake with the backing and
has even admitted it, so your "revelation" is rather moot. Plus I think he
settled the score with his handling of the missle crisis. Why Cuba is off
limits even today is rather rediculous as it poses no more of a threat than a
single fly at a picnic. One just deals with it. 

      



Bill

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