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Text 17376, 179 rader
Skriven 2014-08-01 22:24:20 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 17367 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Palestinian Uprising
============================
Hello Tim,

 TR>> I'd only add to that a powerful news campaign to expose the REAL
 TR>> murderers of innocent civilians, by loudly exposing their inhuman
 TR>> habit of deliberately placing their own people in peril of their
 TR>> lives, because the militants use them for human shields.

 AK>> Again - if a terrorist hides himself behind a child no human should
 AK>> shoot through the child, especially when there is a possibility to solve
 AK>> the problem legally, by ending occupation, as all the world demands from
 AK>> Israel.

 TR> Here's personal experience from the Vietnam war;

 TR> Our forces would have a compound just outside the edge of a Vietnamese
 TR> village.

Did the villagers request such "protection" - or was it something
simply done as a matter of course?

 TR> During the day...everybody in the vilage was `friend to GI'.

"Be nice to men at edge of village.  They have guns."

 TR> At night, the American force would get sniper fire...mortars...rockets...

"We must protect ourselves from bandits and robbers and rapists ..."

 TR> On occasion even an attack on the perimeter, usualy in the early
 TR> morning hours.

"Choot 'em!  Choot 'em!  Wha'?  Dat not Alley Gator?  Sure fool me."

 TR> Next morning a couple of patrols would go out, sweep the area, find
 TR> nothing (of course), and the following night the same thing all over
 TR> again. In fact, that very thing is what sparked the Mai Lai killings.

Oh, come now!  Colonel Calley was found GUILTY!
Those civilians weren't just killed.  They were murdered.
In cold blood.  And to think that some Americans call
him a hero.  What sickies.

 TR> South Korean unit commanders were far more...uh....`intolerant' of
 TR> such things.

Not even South Koreans were as inhuman or inhumane as Colonel Calley.
Lining people into a ditch and shooting them dead.  Men, women and
children.  All non-combatants who were unfortunately Vietnamese.

 TR> The very first time such an incident took place after a ROK unit set
 TR> up a compound near a village, the ROK commander would go to the
 TR> village, tell the elders that one more incident and they'd better be
 TR> prepared to pack and move in one day!


 TR> And the Koreans weren't kidding. Because the very next time they got
 TR> sniper fore or rocketed from that village area, the following morning
 TR> the entire Korean force would start clearing the village out. And
 TR> when a hooch to hooch search assured everyone had been cleared, the
 TR> ROK's would take a bulldozer to the entire place and completely
 TR> level it! Not one stone standing on another stone!


 TR> That was effective.

Best recruitment tool the Viet Cong ever had.

 AK>> Maybe, shooting through the child was acceptable in the past,
 AK>> but surely it must not be acceptable in the 21st century.


 TR> If Israelis were holding their OWN children up as shields like
 TR> the Ayrabs do, the Ayrabs would kill th echild to get to the
 TR> adult! And probably nothing much would be said.

Dropping bombs indiscriminately on innocent civilians is nothing
more than Palestinian-hating PR of the Israelis.  To date, the
Israelis have killed just over 1,000 Palestinians in Gaza.  How
many more dead Palestinians does it take to convince you that
Israelis are not interested in allowing Palestinians to share
any part of Palestine with them?

For Israelis, all of Palestine must be theirs, with not a single
Palestinian living amonst them.  Except for those Palestinians who
are willing to kiss their ass.  In which case, Israel might allow
them a place to stay.  At least for a little while.

 TR> The outcry would be: `The Israelis are using children for shields!
 TR> They're causing their `own' children to die!'

The Talmud says that he who saves a single human life saves the
entire world.  But what of he who takes a single life?

 TR> But...when the Arabs do it....suddenly nobody's supposed to
 TR> kill children! Nobody's outraged at the Ayrabs for placing
 TR> children in danger in a war zone, which they do deliberately.
 TR> And the whole world kinows that. But the world only aims its
 TR> anger and condemnation at Israel! What phoniness!

Who is the bully?
Who is the terrorist?
Who is not to be trusted?

This is all fallout from WWII.

A low-level conflict that has been going on for almost 75 years,
with no end in sight.  When will it end?  Will it ever end?

Israeli Prime Minister Rabin was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
And then a Jewish nutcase shot him dead.

Palestinian President Yasser Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
And then the Israelis were suspected of poisoning him with AIDS.

Which goes to show -
Sometimes no matter what you do you wind up dead.

 TR> The solution that you and the rest of the world seem to have
 TR> trouble putting into words is: The Ayrab ragheads need to stop
 TR> making children targets! THEN children wouldn't be getting
 TR> killed!

Lemme see if I got this right -

Hamas is indoctrinating its children to DIE in the sacred mission
of KILLING THE JEWS.

DEATH is Martyrdom and brings one to Paradise.

Not really sure about the 72 virgins.

In summation, what you are saying/suggesting, is -

HAMAS advocates and promotes a CULTURE of DEATH.

 TR> And by the way....no clear evidence exists that the Ayrab
 TR> ragheads themselves didn't rocket the place deliberately
 TR> to make th Israelis look like child murderers.

Sure seems like you are trying to portray Hamas as
advocating/promoting a culture of death.  And if that
is the case, on the opposite end must be -

Israel promotes/advocates a CULTURE of LIFE, a CULTURE
of TOLERANCE, a CULTURE of COEXISTENCE.

 TR> You seem to forget that the Ayrab ragheads aren't above killing
 TR> their own people in a car bomb to kill one or two Americans or
 TR> Israelis.

Say wha'?  You seem to have forgotten the lessons of 9/11.
Killing one or two Americans or Israelis in a car bomb simply
will not do.  Not any more.  But that is another topic for
another day.  Let's finish up this conversation first -

On the side that promotes DEATH (Palestine) as a matter of
principle there will be a much higher number of dead civilians.

On the side that promotes LIFE (Israel) as a matter of
highest moral principle there will be a much lower number
of dead civilians.

Does that make sense?

If so, then only one conclusion can be made -

The Jews must apologize.

It is the only way there can be peace.

The Jews absolutely must apologize (to the world) for all their sins -

"I APOLOGIZE TO THE WORLD.  I REALLY APOLOGIZE FOR STAYING
ALIVE.  CAN YOU PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR STAYING ALIVE?  PLEASE!"

--Lee

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