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Skriven 2014-10-31 16:28:49 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 19087 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
Ärende: Life Under the Democr
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Hello Alexander,

 AK>>>> Well, I meant the ass of the Earth -- the Middle East. ;-) Guess,
 AK>>>> where is the splinter?

 TR>>> *Islam*!
 TR>>> Remove *Islam*.... and the problem goes away.

 AK>>> I believe that a splinter is something that appeared in the ass
 AK>>> and has caused an inflammation. Islam? Hardly -- it has
 AK>>> existed since times immemorial.

 TR>> Not true. Christianity pre-dates Islam by about 500 years.
 TR>> Both religions have been the cause of much death and destruction,
 TR>> for many centuries.
 TR>> Religion has been the basis of a lot of pain and suffering. Very
 TR>> little peace or healing.
 TR>> What we see in the modern-day Islam is a spreading of sixth century
 TR>> belief in a space-age world. Violence to enforce a way of life that
 TR>> is past and gone.

 ak> But at the beginning of the 20th century Arabs were peaceful camel
 ak> shepherds and and there was not radical Islam, suicide bombers and other
 ak> terrorist activity. Something wrong had happened to them lately. ;)

Lawrence of Arabia appeared to them on a motorcycle and taught
them the ways of modern warfare ...

 TR>> It isn't just `amazing' that modern-day intelligent people put up
 TR>> with the spread of such murderous actions.... its downright
 TR>> primitive.

 TR>> How blind can people be?

 ak> When people suppressed, deprived, occupied and have no means for peaceful
 ak> resistance they always turn to either a radical religion or to terrorist
 ak> activity. Or to both.

Not always.  Some people refuse to be subjugated (such as
Southerners following the American civil war).  General Robert
E. Lee chose to surrender rather than continue the war, realizing
the South had reached a point in which it had no chance of winning.
However, he did say afterwards that had he known the hardships the
South was forced to endure he would have chosen a never-ending war
of attrition rather than to have surrendered.

 ak> The main problem -- Palestinians are not a small nation -- it is a part of
a
 ak> great nation, and the situation in Palestine is indeed like a splinter
 ak> which causes pus and pain in the body of this great nation.

But what is the cause?  A splinter is part of a whole.  Is the tree
rotten?  Or is the tree healthy but a small part scraped off?  We use
wood every day.  Sometimes very small pieces of wood, such as match
sticks.  This is not necessarily a bad thing, as it has potential
to be good or bad, depending on how it is used.

 ak> The problems is that Israel thinks wrongly that it keeps everything under
 ak> its control, but in reality the inflammation spreads far beyond Israel and
 ak> everybody knows it. But the key to the solution is in Israel.

Muslims, Christians, and Jews get along with each other fine.
That is not a problem.  All are of the blood of Abraham, having
a belief in one God.  As I see it, the problem is not with
religion, but rather political.

What has happened is recent in terms of history.  The Jewish
people have traded their religion (Judaism) for that of a
political state (Israel).  The two are not synonymous, although
many people tend to confuse it as such.

Theodore Herzl was a proponent of a political movement called
Zionism.  There are actually two different forms of Zionism,
one version dependent on a political state of Israel being
located anywhere on Earth, the other version mandating such
a political state to be located in its present location.
We all know which version the Jewish people chose.

Hassidic Jews (ultra-orthodox Jews) do not give a rat's ass
about a political state of Israel being necessary to exist.
By their lights, Judaism existed just fine for centuries
without such a political state and will continue to exist
just fine without such a political state.

However, Jews such as Noam Chomsky are getting older
and older and fewer and fewer ...

Reporters mistakenly call Israel the most secular state
in the world, not realizing that Israel is in actuality a
theocracy, not much different than Iran.  Israel has one
set of laws for Jews (call it Sharia for Jews), and one
set of laws for everybody else.  Arabs (including Israeli
Arabs) are second-class citizens and have to ride at
the back of the bus.

All of Herzl's writings are available free for download.
Five very thick volumes.  Or maybe it is six.  Almost as
much fun to read as the Protocols of Zion.

Herzl and his followers were very much anti-Christian.
Even more so than what would be considered anti-Muslim.

One of the issues Jews are talking about today is the
plan to build a third temple.  Why do the Jews want to
build another temple in Jerusalem?  Well, I've got news
for you.  Their temple has already been built.  Pre-fab.
Just needs to be erected on site.  All that is needed
now is for the Dome of the Rock to come crashing down.
And then all Hell will break loose.

--Lee

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