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Text 22802, 78 rader
Skriven 2015-04-05 18:42:13 av Ross Cassell (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 22732 av Paul Hayton (3:770/100)
Ärende: Fidonet Membership
==========================
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 16:32:53 GMT, "Paul Hayton -> Ross Cassell"
<3:770/100> wrote:

 RC>> We can always say that the bitching and bellyaching that we do is
 RC>> keeping users away, thats hogwash...

 PH> Mmmm.. Well it can't be helping the situation can it? I agreee with you it
 PH> won't be the only reason for why the public chooses to engage with Fidonet
 PH> (or not).


Back in the day, BBS's were the only act on broadway for messaging
files and online games... Not so much as the Internet and operating
systems have matured...

 RC>> Have you seen the newsgroups, have you seen the blogs, Facebook,
 RC>> Twitter, Google+, have you seen the comments in youtube videos...
 RC>> All that make us look like Sunday School at church.

 PH> Regardless of where you go online Ross there's always going to be some
folks
 PH> who choose to behave in a way that others find objectionable. I think
Fidonet
 PH> is no exception to this, but neither is it exceptional in that behaviour.

What I am saying in this regard is we cant differentiate ourselves
anymore. We are a dinosaur, our main offering is a message base, that
can be bested by wordpress and blogger setups, disqus, facebook,
twitter.

People like me am not without fault in temprament, then we have trolls
like Tim and Lee, we have someone clinging to the Fidonews editor
title to remain in his own mind, relevant, but has a pathological
hatred of the USA.

Fidonet may not die, and certainly is not dieing for any of the
reasons above, but the bottom of the barrel is viewable, the pickle
brine is real strong.

The Internet simply does what we did, but better.

If you want to see a setup that does Fidonet service in the internet
age, I suggest you check out docplace.

 PH> I enjoy a number of good conversations with folks across several echoareas
in
 PH> the network. They choose to conduct themselves in a manner that appeals to
me
 PH> and we happily chat about all sorts of stuff. I mention this because some
 PH> would have me believe that Fidonet is full of anger, confrontation and
 PH> disagreement. That has not been my experience of the network.

You are going to see that anywhere... But we have our trolls who
thrive on controversy, personally I dislike the out of place USA
hatred.

 RC>> Everything we do and can offer is already being done on a grander
 RC>> scale on the internet, and all one needs is a mouse.

 PH> And yet Fidonet is unique. It has a history and a facinating story to
share.
 PH> It touched a lot of people's lives in it's heyday and is still in
exsistence
 PH> today.

Fidonet is unique but that does not make it invincible.

Many of todays user cannot even fathom using a computer from the
command line.

==
Learn about the USA the way Bjorn Felten did, watch Seinfeld reruns!

Are you BUTT HURT over any insults tossed at Lofaso, try this cure:
http://goo.gl/a21Vdm

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