Text 2666, 72 rader
Skriven 2012-08-21 01:14:32 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
   Kommentar till text 2656 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Nationalist and religious prejudices
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Hello Michiel,

On Tue 2012-Aug-21 00:39, Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555) wrote to Richard
Webb:

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 RW> HE might, as do others,  but I don't.  israel was the
 RW> beneficiary of Winston Churchill getting drunk and basically throwing
 RW> some darts at a map on the wall, so fine.

MvdV> You surprise me. You are one of the rare Americans I have come
MvdV> across that expresse something else than unconditional support for
MvdV> Israel. Refreshing. 

DOn't know about that, more like realistic.  I'm rather
tired of the whole thing to be honest with you.

 RW> WEre I one of the people forced to quickly leave my home I might have
 RW> quite a negative view of that.

MvdV> I think everyone would.

Indeed, and as you said, that resentment can last for
generations.  the Lakota Sioux nation anyone?

 RW> YEt, Israel *is8 a fact of life.

MvdV> If it were only that easy. hard feeling for being driven from
MvdV> one's land can last for generations.

 RW> IT's time to get down to the business of living together.

MvdV> It has to come from both sides. And to me it looks like one side
MvdV> does not want piece.

That's just waht I'm saying, it has to come from both sides. Mutually assured
destruction is not a valid answer.

 RW> But yet, the Palestinians are tarred with the bad brush
 RW> every time some rogue element goes off.  Then ISrael walks
 RW> away from the table, followed by more encroachments with
 RW> "settlements" etc.

MvdV> That's what I mean.

YEp, and I see you snipped my last comment.  AGain, a plague on both their
houses!!!  I'm tired of spending my tax
dollars to prop them up, I'm tired of other Americans
getting tarred with the brush of supporting a regime that
the Palestinians don't like, and tired of being told I
should carry a guilt complex for what I never did to anyone. My ancestors owned
slaves when they first came to this
country, that doesn't mean I do, or condone the practice.
Quit saddling me with the ball and chain of my ancestors'
and forebears' conduct.  I'm not them, I didn't do it!
My forebears with German roots had already come here.  THey
may have been responsible for the displacement of native
peoples here, but again, that's them, not me.
We as a society may owe those people reparations, but again, that's us
collectively as a nation.  As for me personally, I carry no more individual
culpability than anybody else
walking around today.  The Israelis need to understand that
their conduct has even driven many moderates and Christians
out in their quest for their utopian JEwish state.  As for
me, I"ve had enough of all of them.


Regards,
           Richard
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