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Text 28465, 116 rader
Skriven 2015-09-30 03:58:55 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 28441 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: National security
=========================
Hello Ward,

 WD>>> Please look-up the number of instances when nuclear countdown had
 WD>>> started and you (anonymous plural) were just one key away (the
 WD>>> President's) from Armageddon.

 BF>> That's not fair, Ward!

 BF>> We still don't know of all the instances when the Soviet leaders BF>were
 WD> just seconds away from the same opportunity.

 WD> Hmmmm ... OK. Valid point.

Many Cajuns were worried about Fidel Castro being one key away.
Fortunately, Kruschev came to our rescue by getting rid of those
nukes.  Otherwise, JFK just might have decided to nuke Havana.
But probably would have come too late to save New Orleans.

 WD> I recommend the book written by Sergei Nikitich which was a biography of
 WD> Nikita Sergeyevich as experienced by his son. It explains that the USSR
 WD> were never intent on using the nuclear weapon, only as a defense and they
 WD> were scared shitless about the offensive intents of the USA.

 WD> Enlightening reading...

Having first-strike capability is important in the game of
Armageddon.  Imagine what would have happened if Fidel Castro
had actually punched the button before Kruschev put a stop
to his madness?  Not only would it have been lights out for
the city of New Orleans, but it would have been lights out
for me.  And then none of y'all would have been able to
read any of my future posts in this forum (or anywhere else).

 BF>> What we *do* know is that the Soviet archives are pretty much open
 BF>> today -- the US ditto are still secret because of "national security",
 BF>> and will probably remain secret for at least another century if not even
 BF>> more.

 WD> In Britain there was a similar ban on WW2-files for 70 years. Known for
 WD> several years already it was expertly revealed in the movie "The Imitation
 WD> Game" about the cracking of the Enigma-secret. I think the wartime
 WD> activities of MI6 are still a closed matter.

Except for the Prime Minister.  And Doctor Who.  Along with
the Master.  But not the Daleks.  Most definitely not the Daleks.

 BF>> Even all the facts about Pearl Harbour are still kept secret. National
 BF>> security. As if the US nation would go under if the facts about what the
 BF>> FDR administration actually did know 70 years ago was revealed... DUH!

 WD> Even a ton of stuff going back to the Nazi era was until very recently
still
 WD> classified.

Some things will remain classified forever.  Such as what really
happened with Adolf Hitler.  We know the Soviets faked the evidence
they claimed they had of Hitler's remains.  What really happened to
Hitler?  Did he escape Berlin?  Odds are he did.

 WD> After the war e.g. all Nazi douments related to the Holocaust were brought
 WD> together in a gigantic warehouse in Bad Arolsen. Today it is called the
 WD> "International Tracing Service". ITS's total inventory comprises 26,000
 WD> linear metres of original documents from the Nazi era and post-war period,
 WD> 232,710 meters of microfilm and more than 106,870 microfiches. Work is
 WD> under way to digitize the files, both for purposes of easier search and
for
 WD> preserving the historical record.

 WD> The task of organising that, even just indexing, is enormous and only as
 WD> recently as 2007 have the 11 administering powers (Belgium, France,
 WD> Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, United
 WD> Kingdom, and the United States) agreed to open-up whatever is already
 WD> accessible, to the public.

 WD> Taking so much time maybe it wrestled justice away from those that needed
it
 WD> ...

 WD> Having provided services for the US Memorial Holocaust Museum in
Washington
 WD> DC I've been often contacted by 3rd and 4th generation surviving Jews in
 WD> search of the fate of their ancestors and being blocked in their research
 WD> by Bad Arolsens' non-accessability was very frustrating.

 WD> Read more about it here:

 WD> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Tracing_Service

History has a way of repeating itself, despite our best efforts
to keep such things from recurring or happening again.

The Jew as perpetual victim is something the Jewish people are
only now beginning to understand as being a mistake to have made
others believe.  The Jewish people have contributed greatly to
the world, for the betterment of others.  As have other peoples.

The German people should likewise be proud of their own
accomplishments, for there are many.  What was done to the
Jewish people in Germany during that dark period in history
was horrible, but it was not the entire history of Germany.
Just a small part, an infintesimally small part.

The US did not always treat the Jewish people well.  In
fact, the US turned Jewish refugees away from our shores,
many to certain death (the voyage of the St. Louis comes
to mind).

Today it is Muslims who are the victims, as millions of
Syrian refugees can attest.  Will the world open its arms
to those who are suffering, or will the world turn its
back as it once did to the Jews?

--Lee

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