Text 3264, 84 rader
Skriven 2012-09-02 16:44:52 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
   Kommentar till text 3256 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Qwk
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 DD>> Satellite access is faitlr immube form such

 ml> satellite access has its own problems... the main reason why it is not
 ml> embraced in other locations is due to the speed problems... it requires
 ml> POTS uplink or possibly radio but the downlink traffic takes longer time
 ml> than a dialup POTS request and download...

 DD> You have very fast pots then.

i didn't word that right... what i meant was that it takes longer for them to
queue the data and get it up to the bird for it to come down than it does to
just use POTS and make the request directly and get it directly...

 DD> Here we can get (at a minimum) 256Kbps down and 64K up - no POTS
 DD> required. 

they have radio uplinks on their dishes, then... that or they are using wifi or
cellular to send the request to their stations for pulling off the 'net...

we had one company telling us that their stuff didn't use POTS so we figured
we'd give them a try... until we saw that they were setting up a cellular
uplink feed for the requests to travel over... yeah, it wasn't POTS but it was
effectively the same and we told them no thanks right there at that point...
besides, we already have/had 3Meg down and either 512K or 768K up... 

we were just going to trial them and see if their stuff was any better than we
already had... we've done that numerous times... last time was with a wifi
provider and that worked alright except for where their tower was... someone
kept killing the power and we'd not have any traffic or even be able to get a
DHCP issued address... main thing i didn't like about them, other than that,
was they were using RFC-1918 addresses instead of giving everyone a normal
public WAN address... sure, you could by a static public WAN address but it was
at least twice the cost of other providers' static options... after several
months of extremely poor service, we cut them loose... then we spent another 3
months getting them to stop billing us and that required getting the credit
card and banks involved...

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 DD>> Service isn't so good any more

 ml> any more?? it should actually be better know if everyone believes in the
 ml> commercialazition stories... are you saying that going "private" (aka
 ml> commercial) is actually worse??

 DD> Yes. The "corporate model" are more concerned about profits than
 DD> providing a serve amd are not spending on infrastructure as the
 DD> govet model did. 

then vote with your feet and ensure that you let them know why you left...
quite loudly and whereever you can... and get others to do the same... they
/will/ change their tune when the story gets spread... that or they will die...

 DD>> but they still deliver "out bush".

 ml> is that "eau natureal" or "brazilian"?? :) :)

 DD> Whoop whoop - in "the outback"

 -=B-)

 DD> [...]

 DD>> We're told that soon we will have to surrender our copper and take
 DD>> up fibre connections.

 ml> they can take my copper over my dead body!

 DD> I am reminded of "Men in Black" when the local yokel offers that
 DD> reply when asked to lay down his firearm"

they're not the only ones to use it -=B-)

 ml> at least copper works for analogue comms when everything else is 
 ml> dead... unless the copper is cut but then it only takes a simple 
 ml> crimp splice to reocnnect it... fiber takes a bit more than that...

 DD> And when they have no analogue equipment to service your copper? 

copper carries more than just analogue ;)

)\/(ark

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