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Skriven 2016-08-25 14:58:58 av Timothy Richardson (1:2320/100)
     Kommentar till en text av Mike Miller
Ärende: RE: The Global Warming Scam
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On 8/25/2016 4:50 AM, Mike Miller wrote to Timothy Richardson:

->  TR> -> I expect you to go through each one of those 14,150 
published works
->  TR> No need to go through anything. Before I do all that I need the
->  TR> answers to a few simple q a few simple questions:

->  TR> If it's so real....why did those at the East Anglia University Climate
->  TR> Research Uni Research Unit feel the need to delete all their m
message
->  TR> traffic on how they'd worke they'd worked on the `climate' question?
question?
 
->   Messages were read out of context.  horribly out of context. it was n
normal
-> scientific debate between colleagues.

Really? Just for the sake of interest, I've been an amateur scientist for over
forty years, now. My main interests have been Astronomy, Astrophysics 
and Cosmology. Have had several telescopes (in fact I have two 6" 
telescopes right now; one a Celestron and the other a Meade), seen some of
of the many deep sky objects first hand and studied the Sun as well.

I've read extensively many works by many of the old people who's works 
sparked much of the progress we see today. Take my word for it; NONE of th
those people ever spoke in the manner these clowns did!   

-> 
->  TR> If it's all so real....why does NASA find it necessary to alter their
->  TR> temperatur
->  TR> temperature data? To fake it up?
-> 
->    I think you're talking about NOAA.  

No. I am talking about *NASA*!

From an article dated November, 2015:

"Professor Ewart's findings seem to show NASA has intentionally and sy
systematically rigged the official government record of global te
temperatures to show recent global warming where none would exist wi
without the upwards `revisions'."

Further down in the article;

"...Ewart particularly found alterations at stations in the Arctic. Professor
Ewart
Ewart randomly selected 120 stations from all over the world and compared the
2010 archived data to the 2012 data and found that they had been tampered to
produce warming."



compared the 2010 archived data to the 2012 data and found that they had
had been tampered to produce warming."


-> I also see you have little-to-no
-> understanding of how climate science works, and you're just parroting
-> soundbytes and one-liners from certain websites.

Nobody needs to know `how climate science works' to be able to see a bl
blatant fraud! Anyone with brains can see it!

BTW....here's some excerpt's from `voices from the past'.

Now....this is the first `Earth Day' back in the 1970's. An interesting read. 
At the time the claim was we were going into an ice age:

"We have about five more years at the outside to do something." ...
Kenneth Watt, ecologist

"Civilization will end within 15 or 20 years unless immediate action is ta
taken against problems facing Mankind." ....George Wald, Biologist

Here's some of the better ones:

"By the year 2000, if the present trends continue, we will be using up 
crude at such a rate...that there won't be any more crude oil."
Kenneth Watt, ecologist

"Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in
in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of li
living animals will be extinct." ...Senator Gaylord Nelson

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present 
trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global m
mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. 
This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age."
Kenneth Watt ecologist

  A claim was also made that:

In 1974 the US Geological Survey announced that `the US had only a ten 
year supply of natural gas'. Fact is; there's a sufficient supply for around 
1000-to-2500 years!

 
 
 

-> Yes, data was altered, it happens. however "fabrication" implies that t
the
-> numbers were plucked out of thin air. 

No...they were `carefully' altered to attempt to show a `warming trend' wh
where none existed!

 The "altered" data was about ocean
-> surface temperatures. It's something fairly hard to measure, so n
numbers were
-> averaged and skewed. 

Much of it was falsified. Deliberately.

 NOAA has spent nearly 2 years trying to re-compile the
-> data with more accurate numbers and the results they claim, are unchanged.
unchanged.

Their `claims' are hardly proof of anything.
 
->  TR> Why do `climate alarmists' want any and all `skeptics' pros
prosecuted and
->  TR> or imprison imprisoned for dissenting? That isn't how `science' is
->  TR> done, pal
-> 
->   This is news to me. 

Really? A number of `climate alarmists' ...including Al gore
(surprised?) " ..have called for silencing critics by throwing them in jail or
ex
executing them."

"GW is different," said Richard Parncutt, a musicology (snicker) professor 
at the University of Graz, Austria, speaking of global warming. "With the high
high probability it will cause hundreds of millions of deaths. For this reas
reason I propose the death penalty is appropriate for influential GW deni
deniers."



Each side has complete nutjobs though, so it wouldn't
-> surprise me.

 Rest assured that sane people don't think this way.

Are you calling Al Gore `in'sane?
 
->  TR> Another question:
-> 
->  TR> If it's all so real...why the need to alter data in an attempt to
->  TR> cause the Maun Maunder Minimum of the 1600's to disappear?
-> 
->   I am unfamiliar with this supposed data alteration. I'm not really sure h
how
-> you could make something like that "disappear". It happened.

I'm digging the emails out. But here's a sampling:

From Phil Jones to Michael Mann (hockey-stick fame):

"Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will 
will do likewise."

They were doing several things wrong here; 

First, they were deleting material that *belonged to the public* as it was *
*the public* that was financing what they were doing to start with!
Second, they were discussing an attempt to keep information getting out 
that they were *tampering* with data to make it appear a warming trend 
existed where none did.  
->  TR> I have a wealth of information in my arsenal on this subject, fella!
->  TR> Go to it!
-> 
->  I highly doubt it's as reputable and peer-reviewed as the tens-of -
thousands
thousands of published scientific papers I pointed you towards.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!

`Peer-reviewed'? 

They were `reviewing' each OTHER! Gee! No bias there!

 


Before you do, please fix your quoting, I cant' figure out where my lines e
end
-> and yours start.

It isn't me. It's this weird software of Alan's. 
I have to do a F5 renew page every once in a while I order to post without
keystrikes doing misses and other weird stuff. Sometimes I have a post l
lock up and I have to do the F5 thing and start all over! It's maddening!
And it ain't my `keyboard'...`cause I just bought a brand new one! 
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