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Text 1970, 61 rader
Skriven 2006-06-30 19:35:15 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
   Kommentar till text 1905 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Re: Situation on R2:50
==============================
*** Quoting Michiel van der Vlist from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

MvdV>  MvdV>> Partly - or mostly - paid for by the US tax payer. She is a
MvdV>  MvdV>> special case.

 CS> No taxpayer money is actually involved unless I do DSN<-->DSN calls
 CS> and as far as i know, no other sysops have DSN at home on their BBS.

MvdV> Ok, so I misunderstood. I was under the impression that you used the D
MvdV> for the main leg of your connection with your uplink.

Yes and no.  I can see when reading ahead though in this message, where the
confusion is.

As US Navy, I do have one advantage.  I can get around the 700$ fee to get a
line installed but it has to run through the base communications office.  That
means, DSN.  To cut costs, the military setup their own cables and lines and
satilite for work use back 15-20 years ago.  I am granded the excess capacity
if that. I am not for example allowed to have 2 phone numbers here in Japan as
that would be more than my share.

My posts will not match between 2 years ago and now, as I no longer live out in
town but on the base.  Both cases were the same in that I access LD
(international) via the base and that is at 'cost'.

 CS> can understand the confusion easily.

MvdV> Well... how about your connection when you are at sea? That *is* at ta
MvdV> cost isn't it?

Yes and no.  The connection is for work needs and a flat fee, mostly off
military sats (no commercial charge other that that to operate) and we get to
use it ina minimal way to send email and such.  Tiny QWK packets like Dale
sends me are well acceptable. I can fit 15 of them on a floppy.  The GIGS I
transit every hour, are 'other things' and all work related.  I have no more
allowance than that nor does any other.  I tend to be a bit 'short' with some
who offer me a feed that requires more, as it isnt acceptable.

MvdV> this not meant to paint you into a corner, I was just explaining that
MvdV> you are a special case. I think it is perfectly ok for someone in your
MvdV> situation to get compensation from your employer for odd hours and bei
MvdV> away from home for extended periods. Communication facilities for thos
MvdV> away from home are and should be part of the fringe benefits.

It would be nice, but we get only the excess that doesnt cost more. Really and
truely.


MvdV> When I had a job that often took me abroad I thought it was perfectly
MvdV> natural that my employer paid for the daily telephone calls I made wit
MvdV> my wife. Your employer is the US tax payer and so I find it perfectly
MvdV> ok when the tax payer foots at least part of your telecom bill when yo
MvdV> are away from home.

Smile, my work place doesnt allow me to call home when at the pier as it costs
them 3 yen a minute.  I can email home, but if i want to call, I have to use
my cell phone.
                                       xxcarol

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