Text 12952, 152 rader
Skriven 2009-07-15 20:22:16 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 12951 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: keep a knockin' but you can't come in
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Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RC> Hello Ed!

 RC> 15 Jul 09 19:06, you wrote to me:

 RC>>> I am ssh'ing in using ZOC, which I wouldnt do if had more real
 RC>>> estate for keyboards and monitors at eye level. The monitors for
 RC>>> the linux boxes are attached to those swing arms, which are
 RC>>> perched above my primary monitors. I do have Synergy installed
 RC>>> which allows me to control the Linux GUI desktop with my
 RC>>> keyboard/mouse, by simply moving the mouse off certain edges of
 RC>>> the screen, but I'd get a crick in my neck, so ssh is a pretty
 RC>>> decent option.

 EH>> You could really go headless on your linux box.

 RC> Box(es).. :-)

 RC> Got 2ofem (Third box is winders)

I have 7 boxes all running Linux. No winders. The last winders box crashed for
no reason so it is now a Linux box, too. :-)

 RC> I tried that at one time by simply firing up a VNC client, but I do use
 RC> Multitail to follow the Fido logs to monitor da mail hub, so it is
 RC> convenient to have the monitors there. Back when I was using a less
 RC> powerful machine, I even disabled X and merely used a terminal to tail a
 RC> couple logs. However these boxes have plenty of horsies to not worry
 RC> about a system drain. One of them is a dual core processor, the other is
 RC> the top Pentium 4 w/HT and both have 2gb ram in them. The mailhub is one
 RC> the latter.

That's nice.

 RC> Speaking of VNC, I upgraded the non-mailhub linux box from 8.04 to 9.04
 RC> yesterday (Did mailhub box this AM), I have a video card that required a
 RC> third party driver, so when the system restarted, I had no video under
 RC> X.. Fortunately I remembered my VNC client and went in that way and used
 RC> a earlier driver which resolved the issues.

Heh heh... I haven't had that problem in a long time.

 RC>>> Xandros and Ubuntu have made decent attempts to give a sense of
 RC>>> familiarity to users of this variety.

 EH>> The trouble with Xandros is that it is a commercial product and
 EH>> requires users to pay for everything they could get for free by using
 EH>> most other distros. Plus, Xandros uses their own custom version of
 EH>> KDE.

 RC> Yes, I was using Xandros up to about May/June last year, that will teach
 RC> me..

I used it for a short time with version 3. It didn't take long to switch to
Ubuntu.

 RC> Like Gentoo, I dont think the Xandros team is into much development and
 RC> it was their version of KDE that gave me a bad opinion of it.

Xandros used to be Corel Linux and there wasn't any real improvement when it
became Xandros.

 RC> Xandros, compared to Ubuntu, the Ubuntu people are update-aholics, I
 RC> very rarely get more than a months uptime on Ubuntu because I usually
 RC> see a kernel update or some other module that requires a restart..

The longest I've gone with Ubuntu is 2 months. This box is usually only on for
a few hours each day.

 RC> If it were not for a thunderstorm, I would have gotten a years uptime on
 RC> the Xandros setup, which speaks well for Linux's stability but poorly on
 RC> Xandros updates.

The longest uptime I've had was just under 200 days. That was running Slackware
back in 1996/97. It was headless and I used it for internal mail at the ISP I
worked at.

 EH>> I have moved from Ubuntu to LinuxMint. I have used Slackware, Red Hat,
 EH>> Mandrake/Mandriva, Fedora, Suse, Debian and even Yggdrasil.

 RC> I played with Red Hat and Mandrake..

I stopped using RH when they decided they wanted become the M$ of Linux.
Mandrake was so-so, but I never did care for RPM. When I first used apt with
Debian, I was in heaven.

 RC> I took the leap for mail hubbing under Suse Linux, then Xandros, now
 RC> Ubuntu.

I only used Suse for a very short time when an acquaintance on IRC suggested
Debian. I haven't looked back. Yggdrasil was on a CD that I got with the Linux
Bible back in the late 1990s. I installed it and played around for a while, but
it wasn't "plug'n'play like they claimed.

 RC> Of them all, I have to say I am most happy with Ubuntu.

I thought the same up until installing LinuxMint 5 on one of my boxes. Like
Ubunt, LinuxMint (which is based on Ubuntu) has a somewhat ugly default look,
but it's easy to change.

 EH>> It's amusing to witness the holy wars between the various distro
 EH>> adherents.

 RC> Yup, in the end everybody should be happy with their choice and not
 RC> unhappy with the choices others make.

I couldn't agree more. I always thought that with so many different choices
with Linux, why worry about what the next guy is using?

 RC> Reminds me of the Holy Wars here in Fidonet between the OS/2 users and
 RC> the Windows ones, even though in the 90's OS2 had a leg up as far as
 RC> function and stability.

Heh heh heh... Yeah I remember those. I ran Warp 3 for a while and loved it.
When IBM dropped support for OS/2, I dropped OS/2.

 RC> I have my Warp disks around here somewhere.. :)

Same here... somewhere...

 >>>>>> Complacency and/or ignorance.

 MK>>>>> What's the difference?

 >>>>> One is over confidence, the other doesnt know any better.

 MK>>>> Don't both lead to the same end result?

 RC>>> They lead to the same result but are different pathways.

 EH>> So, in the end, there isn't much difference. ;-)

 RC> Not what I am saying, with complacency one should know better, with
 RC> ignorance the person does not.

That's true. In the end, though, both should get a clue. :-)

Ed

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