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Skriven 2007-01-18 05:21:42 av Maurice Kinal (1:140/13.1)
   Kommentar till text 9015 av Richard Steiner (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Fun find from the past
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Hey Richard!

Jan 18 00:01 07, Richard Steiner wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 RS> I use my ReplayTV and a real TV for that stuff.  I'd do more, and I
 RS> have the monitor for it, but my little 200MHz PPro doesn't like video
 RS> processing very much.  320x200 AVIs and music is about its limit.

As far as the TV tuner is concerned there isn't any real processing going on. 
The incoming singanl gets redirected to the Matrox and it does the work.  I am
sure the PPro would have no issues with the scheme.  Capturing in real time
would be a real hassel though, especially on the fly conversion to mpeg4.  Also
there are pci capture cards that do the processing these days although I am
currently now using one of those.  I prefer my setup despite the need for a
heavy-duty cpu and ram since it gives me far more control over the output.

 MK>> Look ma!  No stinkin' GUI!!!  :-)

 RS> Most of my life is spent in fullscreen consoles here, just as it is 
 RS> on
 RS> the Solaris and Unisys boxes at work.  The CLI is a good place to be!

For sure.  I wouldn't trade it for the world.

 RS> Background: I'm a VMS/UNIVAC guy from way back who's played with 

VAX/VMS was my training ground.

 RS> Linux
 RS> and OS/2 since 1992 (OS/2 2.0 and SLS 0.99), and I write code on on
 RS> Solaris for a living (along with Unisys/UNIVAC mainframes).

I forget when I got shoved into Solaris, early 90's I guess, 1992 sounds
familiar.  At first I was highly resistive but warmed up to it after learning
c.  Wrote a few tape archiving routines as well as helped out on a database and
wrote many manpages and a few howto's.

 RS> command or rough equivalent and some of the other 
 RS> interactive/picklist
 RS> UI elements that the 4??? shells from JP Software have made popular.

I'll have to take your word on that.

 RS> UNIX purists have no idea how far behind shells like bash really are,
 RS> but I've discussed it enough on USENET that you can probably find 
 RS> some
 RS> of the threads relatd to it on Google Groups.  The bash UI sucks!

There are ways to enhance it.  Lately I've been playing around with arena to
make the bash shell more cshellish but have been distracted lately with making
the 64-bit machine here more of a purist 64-bit machine.  Too many
distractions.  <EG>

 RS> and shell scripts.  I have to use mc for that.  Ugh.  :-(

I am not a big fan of mc.

 RS> And don't even get me started about case-sensitive filenames, but 
 RS> that
 RS> isn't the shell's fault.  :-)

I like that idea.  Don't you dare touch that!!!  Don't even think about it.

 RS> IBM's JFS was developed on OS/2 and is the up-and-coming filesystem,
 RS> and modern OS/2 supports LVM from IBM as well, but HPFS is still the
 RS> workhorse filesystem.  I think you can even boot OS/2 from an ext2fs
 RS> filesystem with the appropriate IFS and a little tweaking, though.  
 RS> :-)

Probably.

 MK>> BAH!  You obviously haven't seen my linux terminal.

 RS> No, and I'd probably learn some things from your setup, but if you've
 RS> never played with 4DOS and its brethren before, I'm almost *certain*
 RS> that you'd be the one learning more.  :-)

Possibly.  I admit you have the advantage in this particular area but that in
itself doesn't make you right.

 RS> I'm not the only person begging Rex and co to port 4DOS to Linux, but
 RS> so far he hasn't listened (and a closed shell might be a hard sell in
 RS> that environment).  But I'd pay $50 for it in a heartbeat.  Or more.

I'd have to see and play with it before making a judgement call.  So far I
haven't seen anything better then what I have as we speak.

 RS> Not really.  The UNIX world can learn from other platforms.  Really.

Usually what to avoid.  ;-)

Everything could stand improvement.  The thing is that linux still has a future
whereas os/2 doesn't.  Improvement is far more possible in linux then it is for
os/2 ... and only history for others.

Life is good,
Maurice

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