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Skriven 2006-08-26 09:14:12 av Peter Knapper (3:772/1.10)
    Kommentar till text 268 av Holger Granholm (2:20/228)
Ärende: Re:Renaming command shell
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Hi Holger,

 SD> I'm seriously considering putting the BBS back under OS/2 since
 SD> eCS is running slow...and this is on a 1.3ghz P4 system with
 SD> 512MB RAM...
 HG> ____________________________________________________________________

 HG> Thanks for your discussion of eCS vs Warp 4.
 HG> My temptation to change over to eCS has now completely faded.

I can think of no obvious reason why Sean is experiencing any performance
issues under eCS (given the platform he is using), other than he may have some
configuration issue (a H/W conflict???) affecting its performance. I have eCS
v1.2MR running on a P3-733 with 384MB RAM and its running fine fine for me.
Prior to eCS I ran Warp 4 FP15 on the EXACT same H/W, so I had a DIRECT
comparison. I am confident in saying that eCS runs things better than Warp 4 on
this H/W.

There are 3 main differences between Warp 4 FP15 and eCS 1.2MR that I can see -
  1. eCS as distributed requires more RAM than Warp 4 does. This is simply
because eCS is set up with a lot more resident code than Warp 4, so there is
less "reloading" of system components under eCS. As a result certain things run
noticeably faster under eCS than they did under W4 FP15 (EG: Moz 1.7 loads in
<10 seconds compared with around 22 seconds under Warp4).
  2. The User Interface is able to be customised a lot more than under Warp 4.
Initially I did not change a thing (from default), however over the months I
have played with several of the eCS options and now use some of the "extras".
You can actually load the exact same (individual) products under Warp 4 (EG:
xWorkplace) and get the same capability, except these are options are provided
on the eCS CD so they are easier to install and manage.
  3. Installation and configuration of eCS is much better integrated than under
Warp 4, from the bootabe CD to a running machine is about 30 mins AND all
upgrades are automatically applied. There is a tool called ECSMT that will
allow you to apply upgrades direct from their web site if you wish.

 HG> I'm running Warp4/FP12 on two computers and I'm absolutely happy
 HG> with the stability of both. It can't get better!

Of course it can, nothing is abslutely perfect (just VERY good.........;-))
however I do agree that Warp 4 FP15 is a very stable platform. The BBS here
still runs W4 FP15 on a Celeron 700 with 64MB RAM (the previous MB was a
486DX2-66 with 16MB RAM but when that died the SMALLEST Motherboard/CPU I could
get was a Cerlon 700) and while I am sure it would run well under eCS, I would
not try that until I had 128MB RAM in that machine, as it runs Binkleyterm,
Maximus, BinkD, Apache (Web), NtpD (Time), SyslogD, BinD (DNS), CRON on W4 FP15
with 64MB ram and still has 10MB RAM free. It has now been up non-stop for 189
days, and the last restart was only because I relocated the power feed to a
small UPS! I must investgate a dual power supply box that allows me to relocate
indvidual power feeds without a total power down..........;-)

 HG> One is the BBS with an AMD-486DX2 80 MHz and 16 Mb RAM (YES 16),

eCS will not even load on that, you would need a minimum of 48MB for an
install, and it is optimised for Pentium CPU's. However with nothing else
runing it will probably run (walk???) with 64MB RAM, but I would expect to see
some swappig taking place. Does your current box use the swap file much? If I
replaced Warp 4 FP on the BBS with eCS 1.2MR then I would upgrade the memory to
128MB to handle all the Networking stuff well, but that is all I would need to
do.

 HG> the work machine is an AMD-K6 III 400 MHz with 64 Mb RAM.

Ditto for than one, eCS does run better with the memory, but thats the prime
resaon for why it performs so much better than Warp 4, it makes much better use
of the available (memory) resources. 

The Warp 3 release required a minimum of 4MB of RAM to install, but it did not
really run well on that amount of memory, I think the recommended minimum was
8MB. Quite by accident one day I powered up a 386-16 Motherboard with 3MB RAM
to use it for something and the drive I used had Warp 3 installed! Warp 3
actually did boot up in 3MB, but it was slow... Warp 4 required 12MB RAM to 
install, but they did recommend you have 16MB, so its not surprising that when
eCS was released 8 years later it needs 48MB with a recommended minmum of 64MB.

 HG> My motto is: If it works, don't fix it.

Yep, nothing wrong with that, I work to it myself. However when I see something
better that has facilities I can USE that the current environment does not
have, I will start planning to "upgrade" things...

 HG> I do have a slightly newer MoBo for the BBS computer but my motto
 HG> stops me from "upgrading".

If you do upgrade, I would pop in the memory... just in case you need it
later......;-)

Cheers............pk.


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