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Text 12994, 242 rader
Skriven 2006-09-21 06:16:58 av Geo (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 12992 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files? That's = what
this is about yes?

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net...
     I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use.  I =
have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats = including
transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own = use.  I'm pretty
sure you have asserted this position as well in the = past.  Only now do you
act like an idiot with some silly position that = it is illegal for apple to
support format shifting in itunes if they try = to make money on ipods and
itunes.  Why haven't you been more vocal = about your silly position for the
past few years?

  Rich

    "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message =
news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net...
    Rich wrote:
    >    What an idiot.  You think I believe ripping is OK only because =
my=20
    > employer thinks it is OK?  What a hoot!=20

    Nope I think your views change as those of your employer change.

    > And your sudden assertion that=20
    > ripping is not OK is because of what?
    > =20

    I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home=20
    backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the media etc =
is=20
    fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the one =
who=20
    holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your employer =
money.

    Adam

    > Rich
    > =20
    >=20
    >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
    >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
    >     news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net...
    >     Rich wrote:
    >      >    Apparently you.  My views haven't changed.  You appear =
to take
    >     silly
    >      > positions at the drop of a hat.
    >      >=20
    >      > Rich
    >      >=20
    >      >
    >      >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
    >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
    >      >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
    >      >     news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net...
    >      >     Rich wrote:
    >      >      >    My views haven't changed.  I think it is OK to =
rip your own
    >      >     CDs for
    >      >      > your own use.  Always have.  You are changing your =
tune and
    >      >     looking like
    >      >      > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
    >      >      >
    >      >
    >      >
    >      >
    >      >     So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him =
by his
    >     betters?
    >      >
    >      >     Adam
    >     Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer takes, =
which
    >     is in
    >     itself dictated by the search from profits.
    >=20
    >     Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what about format shifting to your ipod =
then=20
sharing the files? That's what this is about yes?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net">news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I have always thought it =
OK rip your=20
  own CDs for your own use.&nbsp; I have also thought it OK to further =
format=20
  shift into other formats including transfering to your ipod or other =
music=20
  player for your own use.&nbsp; I'm pretty sure you have asserted this =
position=20
  as well in the past.&nbsp; Only now do you act like an idiot with some =
silly=20
  position that it is illegal for apple to support format shifting in =
itunes if=20
  they try to make money on ipods and itunes.&nbsp; Why haven't you been =
more=20
  vocal about your silly position for the past few years?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Adam" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net">news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ri=
ch=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What an idiot.&nbsp; You think I =
believe=20
    ripping is OK only because my <BR>&gt; employer thinks it is =
OK?&nbsp; What=20
    a hoot! <BR><BR>Nope I think your views change as those of your =
employer=20
    change.<BR><BR>&gt; And your sudden assertion that <BR>&gt; ripping =
is not=20
    OK is because of what?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR><BR>I never said it was =
right to=20
    rip in order to make money. Home <BR>backup/format shifting by the =
person=20
    who has purchased the media etc is <BR>fine but to make money makes =
you into=20
    a publisher. You are the one who <BR>holds it's fine for people to =
rip so=20
    long as it makes your employer money.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>&gt;=20
    Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Adam" =
&lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;&gt;=20
    wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net">news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Rich wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Apparently you.&nbsp; My views haven't changed.&nbsp; You appear to=20
    take<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    silly<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; positions at the =
drop of a=20
    hat.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    "Adam" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;&gt;=20
    wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net">news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My views =
haven't=20
    changed.&nbsp; I think it is OK to rip your=20
    own<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CDs=20
    for<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt; your own use.&nbsp; Always have.&nbsp; You are changing your =
tune=20
    and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    looking like<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; a fool with your new very =
silly=20
    assertions.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So=20
    Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by=20
    his<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    betters?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Adam<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope, You simply take whatever =
position=20
    your employer takes, which<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is=20
    in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; itself dictated by the search =
from=20
    profits.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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