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Text 15687, 223 rader
Skriven 2007-01-26 22:00:16 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15686 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: IBM, Nokia, Sun Microsystems, Adobe, Oracle and Red Hat  say Vista 
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   WPF/E is a subset of WPF.  This is clear if you follow the links I =
provided.

   I don't see the relevance of your quote from the WPF/E mac download.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45bae8eb@w3.nls.net...
  I just saw a Bill Gates Interview ( link below ) from Sept which seems =
to imply that Windows Presentation Foundation for Mac will be a subset = of
what runs under Vista. Am I in error in that assumption?  I've seen = other
comments ( expecially from Flash supporters ) that claim something = similar.



  =
http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-ed84-4f7=
8-ab48-7b69d4bce047
  BG: The Mac is one of the targets that we explicitly talked about, so =
yes. Now it's not 100 percent of XAML, we need to be clear on that. But = the
portion of XAML we've picked here will be everywhere. Absolutely = everywhere.
And it has to be. You've got to have, for at least reading, = and even some
level of animation, you've got to have pervasiveness. And = will there be
multiple things that fit into that niche? Probably. = Because it's not that
hard to carry multiple...you as a user don't even = know when you're seeing
something that's WPF/E versus Flash versus = whatever. It just works.


  I've pasted a portion of your Microsoft XAML Mac link below.  =20

  ---------
  "WPF/E" (codename) is a browser enhancement module that enables =
browsers to render rich content in addition to HTML. 'WPF/E" is = compatible
with both the Safari browser and Firefox 1.5.0.8 on MacOSX = 10.4.8. The Dec
2006 CTP will expire on February 18, 2007 at which point = when a web page that
uses it is rendered, it will prompt the user to = update to the latest version.
"WPF/E" (codename) will periodically ping = Microsoft.com to verify its
integrity (at which point the only = information that will be communicated will
be your IP address and the = module version).

    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45badd95$1@w3.nls.net...
       Obviously bogus claims like this don't help their clearly biased =
propaganda win over anyone that isn't already biased as they are.  Maybe =
these guys should have fact checked their propaganda to exclude all but = their
subjective claims that they could always spin as needed when = questioned.

       FWIW, if you want to view XAML on the Macintosh, visit =
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A00C-F7BB-=
459A-9DA2-F1DB6297277F&displaylang=3Den then http://www.msdn.com/wpfe = for
samples. =20

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45bab1c8$1@w3.nls.net...



      It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to =
replace HTML",=20
      the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet. =
XAML would=20
      be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory against systems such =
as Linux,=20
      the group said.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; WPF/E is a subset of =
WPF.&nbsp; This=20
is clear if you follow the links I provided.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't see the relevance =
of your=20
quote from the WPF/E mac download.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45bae8eb@w3.nls.net">news:45bae8eb@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just saw a Bill Gates Interview ( =
link below )=20
  from Sept which seems to imply that Windows Presentation Foundation =
for=20
  Mac&nbsp;will be a subset of what runs under Vista. Am I in error =
in&nbsp;that=20
  assumption?&nbsp; I've seen other comments ( expecially from Flash =
supporters=20
  ) that claim something similar.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-=
ed84-4f78-ab48-7b69d4bce047">http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.=
aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-ed84-4f78-ab48-7b69d4bce047</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG>BG</STRONG>: The Mac is one of the targets that we =
explicitly=20
  talked about, so yes. Now it's not 100 percent of XAML, we need to be =
clear on=20
  that. But the portion of XAML we've picked here will be everywhere. =
Absolutely=20
  everywhere. And it has to be. You've got to have, for at least =
reading, and=20
  even some level of animation, you've got to have pervasiveness. And =
will there=20
  be multiple things that fit into that niche? Probably. Because it's =
not that=20
  hard to carry multiple...you as a user don't even know when you're =
seeing=20
  something that's WPF/E versus <SPAN class=3Dsearchword>Flash</SPAN> =
versus=20
  whatever. It just works.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've pasted a portion of your =
Microsoft XAML Mac=20
  link below.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>---------</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV class=3DdownloadInfo><A name=3DDescription></A><SPAN>=93WPF/E=94 =
(codename) is a=20
  browser enhancement module that enables browsers to render rich =
content in=20
  addition to HTML. =91WPF/E=94 is compatible with both the Safari =
browser and=20
  Firefox 1.5.0.8 on MacOSX 10.4.8. The Dec 2006 CTP will expire on =
February 18,=20
  2007 at which point when a web page that uses it is rendered, it will =
prompt=20
  the user to update to the latest version. =93WPF/E=94 (codename) will =
periodically=20
  ping Microsoft.com to verify its integrity (at which point the only=20
  information that will be communicated will be your IP address and the =
module=20
  version).</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DdownloadInfo><SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45badd95$1@w3.nls.net">news:45badd95$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Obviously bogus claims =
like this=20
    don't help their clearly biased propaganda win over anyone that =
isn't=20
    already biased as they are.&nbsp; Maybe these guys should have fact =
checked=20
    their propaganda to exclude all but their subjective claims that =
they could=20
    always spin as needed when questioned.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; FWIW, if you want to =
view XAML on=20
    the Macintosh, visit <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A0=
0C-F7BB-459A-9DA2-F1DB6297277F&amp;displaylang=3Den">http://www.microsoft=
.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A00C-F7BB-459A-9DA2-F1DB629727=
7F&amp;displaylang=3Den</A>&nbsp;then=20
    <A =
href=3D"http://www.msdn.com/wpfe">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe</A>&nbsp;for=20
    samples.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
      wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:45bab1c8$1@w3.nls.net">news:45bab1c8$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V><BR><BR><BR>It=20
      said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace =
HTML",=20
      <BR>the industry standard for publishing documents on the =
Internet. XAML=20
      would <BR>be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory against =
systems such=20
      as Linux, <BR>the group=20
said.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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