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Text 1715, 203 rader
Skriven 2005-01-02 13:21:40 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1707 av Robert Comer (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Making money on the Internet
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   When you make these things up it is easy to get yourself worked up.  =
Passport is free for users and not free for the participating web sites.

   If you are concerned over people taking fees from web transactions, =
you should fear ebay and paypal as well as amazon and yahoo shops all of =
which are in this business.  Clearly mike's dislike of this hasn't kept = any
of these from being successful.

Rich

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message =
news:41d832c7$1@w3.nls.net...
  > Gates' statements about wanting to take a micro-fee on each web=20
  > transaction.
  > Passport was free now, but how long would it remain free if =
Microsoft had
  > eliminated the alternatives?

  That was also a problem for me...

  - Bob Comer


  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message=20
  news:vragt0tc6emv1sd614fo5t1qlpg5a5sqav@4ax.com...
  >
  > I also liked the idea of a single-signin, but have had reservations =
about
  > Microsoft being the toll-taker in such a scenario, especially in =
light of
  > Gates' statements about wanting to take a micro-fee on each web=20
  > transaction.
  > Passport was free now, but how long would it remain free if =
Microsoft had
  > eliminated the alternatives?
  >
  > /m
  >
  > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:59:47 -0500, "Robert Comer"=20
  > <bobcomer@mindspring.com>
  > wrote:
  >
  >>I've always liked single signin, but never have trusted it enough =
for
  >>important information, but I kind of like the idea of having a =
single
  >>signin/data store that only I could access.  Maybe some kind of =
smart card
  >>with two (or more) authentications.  That's not so easy to do now, =
but=20
  >>it'll
  >>happen in the future...
  >>
  >>- Bob Comer
  >>
  >>
  >>"Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message
  >>news:1rtft0tba0llegec3eo2dv7svlbq2uuht9@4ax.com...
  >>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:31:00 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>>   It never applied.  But thanks for changing the topic.
  >>>
  >>>   It is relevant to the topic when someone else can assume my =
single
  >>> signin credentials.
  >>>
  >>>>  "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message
  >>>> news:nnldt0ln7q0k6ibovbucajc6ifpgct3p1i@4ax.com...
  >>>>  I notice the use of present tense "applies to".    Initial fears =
and
  >>>> past
  >>>>  history
  >>>>   http://www.securityfocus.com/news/4575
  >>>>    do not inspire confidence that there are no other issues =
lurking.
  >>>
  >>
  >=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; When you make these things =
up it is=20
easy to get yourself worked up.&nbsp; Passport is free for users and not =
free=20
for the participating web sites.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you are concerned over =
people=20
taking fees from web transactions, you should fear ebay and paypal as = well
as=20
amazon and yahoo shops all of which are in this business.&nbsp; Clearly =
mike's=20
dislike of this hasn't kept any of these from being = successful.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>"Robert Comer" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>&gt; = wrote
in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41d832c7$1@w3.nls.net">news:41d832c7$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>&gt;=20
  Gates' statements about wanting to take a micro-fee on each web =
<BR>&gt;=20
  transaction.<BR>&gt; Passport was free now, but how long would it =
remain free=20
  if Microsoft had<BR>&gt; eliminated the alternatives?<BR><BR>That was =
also a=20
  problem for me...<BR><BR>- Bob Comer<BR><BR><BR>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:vragt0tc6emv1sd614fo5t1qlpg5a5sqav@4ax.com">news:vragt0tc6em=
v1sd614fo5t1qlpg5a5sqav@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  I also liked the idea of a single-signin, but have had reservations=20
  about<BR>&gt; Microsoft being the toll-taker in such a scenario, =
especially in=20
  light of<BR>&gt; Gates' statements about wanting to take a micro-fee =
on each=20
  web <BR>&gt; transaction.<BR>&gt; Passport was free now, but how long =
would it=20
  remain free if Microsoft had<BR>&gt; eliminated the=20
  alternatives?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; /m<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 =
11:59:47=20
  -0500, "Robert Comer" <BR>&gt; &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>&gt;<B=
R>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;I've always liked single signin, but never =
have=20
  trusted it enough for<BR>&gt;&gt;important information, but I kind of =
like the=20
  idea of having a single<BR>&gt;&gt;signin/data store that only I could =

  access.&nbsp; Maybe some kind of smart card<BR>&gt;&gt;with two (or =
more)=20
  authentications.&nbsp; That's not so easy to do now, but=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt;it'll<BR>&gt;&gt;happen in the =
future...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;-=20
  Bob Comer<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;"Mike N." &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@u-spam-u-die.net">mike@u-spam-u-die.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  =
message<BR>&gt;&gt;news:1rtft0tba0llegec3eo2dv7svlbq2uuht9@4ax.com...<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
  On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:31:00 -0800, "Rich" &lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; It never =
applied.&nbsp;=20
  But thanks for changing the =
topic.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  It is relevant to the topic when someone else can assume my=20
  single<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; signin=20
  credentials.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; "Mike N." =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@u-spam-u-die.net">mike@u-spam-u-die.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:nnldt0ln7q0k6ibovbucajc6ifpgct3p1i@4ax.com">news:nnldt0ln7q0=
k6ibovbucajc6ifpgct3p1i@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
  I notice the use of present tense "applies to".&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Initial=20
  fears and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; past<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
  history<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.securityfocus.com/news/4575">http://www.securityfocus.=
com/news/4575</A><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  do not inspire confidence that there are no other issues=20
  lurking.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; =
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