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Skriven 2007-05-23 12:57:16 av Ad (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 18154 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Your next PC is... a phone
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From: Ad <Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com>

Rich wrote:
>    Smartphones do not have anywhere near the I/O perf and capacity of
> PCs even those few years old.

(A) IO perf

Why fit something like :

"The ARM CortexTM-A8 processor is the first applications processor based on the
ARMv7 architecture and is the highest performance, most power-efficient
processor ever developed by ARM. With the ability to scale in speed from 600MHz
to greater than 1GHz, the Cortex-A8 processor can meet the requirements for
power-optimized mobile devices needing operation in less than 300mW; and
performance-optimized consumer applications requiring 2000 Dhrystone MIPS. "

if you're not going to have the IO required to feed the cpu?

RAM etc is cheap & the distances in a mobile phone are smaller.

(B) Capacity?

Mobile phones & digicams are driving solid state storage not the PC & it's the
PC which is moving towards the mobile phone & not the other way around on that.

e.g.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/05/02/flash_future_for_notebooks/

""More than half of new notebooks to use Flash drives by Q4 2009," shouts the
headline on market watcher iSuppli's latest missive, before admitting soon
after that, actually, it's counting not just solid-state drives but also
regular HDDs with integrated Flash cache and separate caches like Intel's Turbo
Memory module.

Still, it shows that non-volatile storage chips are going play an increasingly
important part in laptop design going forward from the handful - if that - of
machines available today with built-in Flash."

or:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/14/sansdisk_flash_drive_for_laptops/

"SanDisk has begun offering a 32GB solid-state drive to notebook makers less
than a week after it was claimed Apple's rumoured sub-notebook will only
contain Flash storage."

Gosh apparently even a recent Microsoft operating system even supports solid
state storage.


>  Sure I can add a memory card to my phone
> but I could add slow memory to PCs from years ago.

My my a MS person saying solid state = slow? So why are the vista people so
keen to boot from it?


> My PC of several
> years back had a terrabyte of storage.

Well done you. I take it this was in a mobile computer. If not then gosh many
smartphones come with USB2.0 & I can add 1 TB easily using that should I wish
to.


> Phones are nowhere close.

With USB2.0 they are exactly where the PC is.

> RAM
> of a phone, not flash storage, is low and usually in the tens or if
> lucky the hundreds of megabytes not gigabytes.

&? Not every OS needs gigabytes of RAM. I accept that Vista does but
heck not every PC has gigabytes of RAM.

In fact none of mine have over 1 Gb.

> Display size of phones
> is tiny.

Indeed. This is the problem I have been referring to but it is soluble
especially if docked in some fashion.

> Human interface input limited though because perf is not an
> issue you can use a bluetooth PC keyboard with some phones such as mine.
>
>    All in all, a phone makes a crappy PC.

A PC makes a crappy small device. Tablets haven't taken off, nor have micro/sub
laptops.

As the PC has found it's much easier to occupy the low ground & then grow than
to occupy the high ground and then try to scale down.

  I very much like my
> smartphone and it is good at what it does.  It doesn't do what a PC does
> nor is it as good as a PC for many of the things the phone can do like
> email and web access.
>

Shrug. The only thing stopping that is display size. My 3G connection is at teh
moment slightly faster than my broadband though I am about to upgrade my
broadband speed so....


>    I'll believe you believe your nonsense when you get rid of all the
> PCs you and your family have at home and use only your phones.
>

I know which I have with me habitually & which my family members have with them
habitually. My elder son uses his PC periodically but take his mobile phone off
him & there'd be war.

I know a number of people who via bluetooth keyboards use their phones for all
note-taking etc in meetings. Fewer & fewer are bringing laptops unless they're
doing a powerpoint style presentation.


It's down to display size. Once they have that figured out then many PC'es will
be replaced with smartphones.

Adam

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