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Skriven 2005-01-26 22:10:18 av Glenn Meadows (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2191 av John Oellrich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: John's Not So Grand Linux Adventure
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From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net>

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Windows free except for your WorldGrid Client, no other client yet, = Linux
next though they claim.  I've got 8 clients going now on Grid.

--=20
Glenn M.


  "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us> wrote in message =
news:41f856fb$1@w3.nls.net...
  Realized I was more negative than I meant to be. There were some very =
good points in this Linux try. It seems to take forever to boot (but = then I
was used to WinMe on this box) but once it is running it is very = responsive.
The desktop is attractive and approachable. I need to spend = more time with it
obviously, plus do things like load up FireFox and a = better newsreader (any
suggestions?)

  I plan to give Linux the full monte try out. Including seeing whether =
Linux apps can really sync with my iPaq and iPod, and then if that is =
successful then maybe I will tackle the home theater PC thing next. If = that
all is successful I may be essentially Windows free.=20

  --=20
  john

  john@oellrich.us
    "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us> wrote in message =
news:pan.2005.01.27.00.40.55.538774@oellrich.us...
    Bunkies,

    I'm on vacation this week so I decided to try my luck at Linux =
again.
    Recently read that Novell was making Suse 9.2 Professional a free =
download
    so I thought I would go that way.

    As my ThinkPad 600X has been idle for quite some time I decided it =
would
    be the sacrificial goat. Did a thorough backup of all the data on it =
to
    DVD.

    Try the CD/FTP route for installing Suse. Burn the CD but the FTP =
never
    connects. I'm sure there was something missed here, so I just said =
screw
    it and downloaded the full DVD ISO image from a mirror. Only took a =
couple
    of hours, not bad.

    Then I go to burn the image and Nero V5 is unhappy about the image =
size.
    Dick around for a while and then just download a freeware DVD =
burner.
    Problem solved.

    The initial install goes pretty well, except....

    Yeah there had to be an except. This time it was the video display. =
It
    recognized the video chipset correcty but would only allow a display =
of
    800x600x16. As the native resolution of the LCD is 1024x768 that =
looked
    real yucky! Reset it to the correct resoultion/depth, tested it =
within
    YAST, and away we went.

    The, on reboot, once the system went in to graphics mode I just got =
this
    very pretty rainbow affect on the display. Not what I was looking =
for.
    Booted in to a command prompt (so much for this being your grandma's =
OS)
    and ran YAST to reset the video to exactly the same parameters I did
    before and it worked! sigh, it's a good thing I already drink ;->

    But compared to previous Linux installs I have done this was a piece =
of
    cake. OTOH most of the others were on DEC Alpha systems, not a =
mainstream
    IBM laptop. In fact that is one other reasons I choose the ThinkPad,
    mainstream and mature. The problems with the video actually =
surprised me.

    Had enough for one evening at that point. Had one more hardware =
issue in
    front of me, weaning the system from its PCMCIA/Ethernet card and =
then to
    a PCMCIA 802.11 wireless card.

    Tonight I tackled the wireless networking issue. Of course which =
wireless
    card did I try first? A Linksys 802.11G. It wasn't recognized. Tried =
to
    manually configure it, hit both the Suse and Linksys FAQs, no joy. =
But at
    least Linksys had instructions on how to configure their older =
802.11B
    card for Linux and I knew I had one of those somewhere.

    Yep, Suse 9.2 recognized the card and it installed. But it wouldn't
    connect. But at this point it wasn't a Linux problem. I had =
forgotten that
    I had configured my WAP for 802.11G only, change it to mixed mode.

    Still no happiness. Then I'm watching the boot messages (something =
I'm
    sure your grandma dotes on<g>) and I catch an error message about =
wpa.....
    something or another not loaded, network unsecure. Great. I have the
    wireless network setup as WPA-PSK, which is as secure as it gets, =
and
    Linux hasn't installed the package for it even though YAST allowed =
me to
    set the parameters for it. Reset my WAP for no security, I'll just =
have to
    set it to filter on MAC addresses when I get around to it. I can =
still be
    sniffed then, but at least no one can actually use the network.

    So I am basically up and running. This message was composed and =
posted
    using the PAN Newsreader. Tomorrow I will start from scratch. YAST =
kept
    way too much of the old WinMe on the hard drive. I wanted to nuke it
    completely, so I'll hook up the floppy, boot DOS and blow everything =
away!

    john

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<DIV>Windows free except for your WorldGrid Client, no other client yet, =
Linux=20
next though they claim.&nbsp; I've got 8 clients going now on = Grid.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Glenn M.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>"John Oellrich" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41f856fb$1@w3.nls.net">news:41f856fb$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
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  <DIV>Realized I was more negative than I meant to be. There were some =
very=20
  good points in this Linux try. It seems to take forever to boot (but =
then I=20
  was used to WinMe on this box) but once it is running it is very =
responsive.=20
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with it=20
  obviously, plus do things like load up FireFox and a better newsreader =
(any=20
  suggestions?)</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I plan to give Linux the full monte try out. Including seeing =
whether=20
  Linux apps can really sync with my iPaq and iPod, and then if that is=20
  successful then maybe I will tackle the home theater PC thing next. If =
that=20
  all is successful I may be essentially Windows free. </DIV>
  <DIV><BR>-- <BR>john</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"John Oellrich" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:pan.2005.01.27.00.40.55.538774@oellrich.us">news:pan.2005.01=
.27.00.40.55.538774@oellrich.us</A>...</DIV>Bunkies,<BR><BR>I'm=20
    on vacation this week so I decided to try my luck at Linux=20
    again.<BR>Recently read that Novell was making Suse 9.2 Professional =
a free=20
    download<BR>so I thought I would go that way.<BR><BR>As my ThinkPad =
600X has=20
    been idle for quite some time I decided it would<BR>be the =
sacrificial goat.=20
    Did a thorough backup of all the data on it to<BR>DVD.<BR><BR>Try =
the CD/FTP=20
    route for installing Suse. Burn the CD but the FTP =
never<BR>connects. I'm=20
    sure there was something missed here, so I just said screw<BR>it and =

    downloaded the full DVD ISO image from a mirror. Only took a =
couple<BR>of=20
    hours, not bad.<BR><BR>Then I go to burn the image and Nero V5 is =
unhappy=20
    about the image size.<BR>Dick around for a while and then just =
download a=20
    freeware DVD burner.<BR>Problem solved.<BR><BR>The initial install =
goes=20
    pretty well, except....<BR><BR>Yeah there had to be an except. This =
time it=20
    was the video display. It<BR>recognized the video chipset correcty =
but would=20
    only allow a display of<BR>800x600x16. As the native resolution of =
the LCD=20
    is 1024x768 that looked<BR>real yucky! Reset it to the correct=20
    resoultion/depth, tested it within<BR>YAST, and away we =
went.<BR><BR>The, on=20
    reboot, once the system went in to graphics mode I just got =
this<BR>very=20
    pretty rainbow affect on the display. Not what I was looking =
for.<BR>Booted=20
    in to a command prompt (so much for this being your grandma's =
OS)<BR>and ran=20
    YAST to reset the video to exactly the same parameters I =
did<BR>before and=20
    it worked! sigh, it's a good thing I already drink ;-&gt;<BR><BR>But =

    compared to previous Linux installs I have done this was a piece =
of<BR>cake.=20
    OTOH most of the others were on DEC Alpha systems, not a =
mainstream<BR>IBM=20
    laptop. In fact that is one other reasons I choose the=20
    ThinkPad,<BR>mainstream and mature. The problems with the video =
actually=20
    surprised me.<BR><BR>Had enough for one evening at that point. Had =
one more=20
    hardware issue in<BR>front of me, weaning the system from its=20
    PCMCIA/Ethernet card and then to<BR>a PCMCIA 802.11 wireless=20
    card.<BR><BR>Tonight I tackled the wireless networking issue. Of =
course=20
    which wireless<BR>card did I try first? A Linksys 802.11G. It wasn't =

    recognized. Tried to<BR>manually configure it, hit both the Suse and =
Linksys=20
    FAQs, no joy. But at<BR>least Linksys had instructions on how to =
configure=20
    their older 802.11B<BR>card for Linux and I knew I had one of those=20
    somewhere.<BR><BR>Yep, Suse 9.2 recognized the card and it =
installed. But it=20
    wouldn't<BR>connect. But at this point it wasn't a Linux problem. I =
had=20
    forgotten that<BR>I had configured my WAP for 802.11G only, change =
it to=20
    mixed mode.<BR><BR>Still no happiness. Then I'm watching the boot =
messages=20
    (something I'm<BR>sure your grandma dotes on&lt;g&gt;) and I catch =
an error=20
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unsecure.=20
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secure=20
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though=20
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when I get=20
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can=20
    actually use the network.<BR><BR>So I am basically up and running. =
This=20
    message was composed and posted<BR>using the PAN Newsreader. =
Tomorrow I will=20
    start from scratch. YAST kept<BR>way too much of the old WinMe on =
the hard=20
    drive. I wanted to nuke it<BR>completely, so I'll hook up the =
floppy, boot=20
    DOS and blow everything=20
away!<BR><BR>john<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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