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Skriven 2005-02-09 18:42:10 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2430 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS and Macrovision join forces
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Obviously you are not reading before putting your foot in your mouth. =
 I provided a link to the Macrovision press release at =
http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3DTue%20F=
eb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005.  You look to be quoting the bozos at =
theregister.  See the difference.  Macrovision press release =3D=3D = credible
source of information on Macrovision's announcement.  the = register =3D=3D
non-credible source of information on most topics.

Rich

  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:420ab27f@w3.nls.net...
  the quote was from your link. Didn't you even read the story you =
posted a link to?

  Geo.
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42078e4e@w3.nls.net...
       I quoted the press release and identified it providing a link.  =
You quote someone else's opinion and do not identify it.  The paranoia I =
still attribute to you.  It's from a pattern of behavior.  That you = quoted
this and represented it as your opinion or reflective of your = opinion fits
within that pattern.

    Rich

      "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42074f7c$1@w3.nls.net...
      that was a quote from the article, only the last sentence was =
mine. Sorry I should have made that clearer but you are now saying the = author
of the article is paranoid with feelings of entitlement?

      Geo.
        "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4206e8d7@w3.nls.net...
           DRM as you are using it is misnomer.  Macrovison protection =
is DRM by the definition you are using.

           I see you completely ignored the major feature mentioned =
first in the paragraph I quoted and selectively edited your quote to = remove
the suggestion that this other feature is a secondary one.  You = also switched
the subject from video, the subject of both features in = the press release, to
audio for some reason.  Your paranoia is getting = the best of you.  You even
ignore your own point that you can record the = audio output if you wish.  I
can't even guess what it is you are trying = to get people to believe but I'm
pretty sure that it bears little = relation to anything Macrovision's product
does or the benefits of = finally allowing the PC to participate with content
that today it is = precluded from supporting.

           It should come as no surprise to you that your posts here are =
similar to your's on other discussions of what entitlements you should = have
to the work of others.  Your paranoia has gotten so great that you = see people
out to get you and deny you something to which you feel = entitled in every
corner.  You don't even question your feeling of = entitlement any more.

        Rich

          "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net...
          As DRM increasingly restricts what users can do with digital =
data, the
          analog domain remains one way around the problem. In the case =
of audio, for
          instance, digital data ultimate has to be converted into an =
audio sound wave
          which can be recorded and re-encoded without the limitations =
of the DRM'd
          original. MS is aware of this and is clearly hoping to use =
Macrovision
          technology to help block that avenue too.
          "An Internet-delivered movie, downloaded to a PC, can now be =
protected on
          analog video playback out of a PC," the two companies claimed.

          I don't know Rich, that seems pretty clear to me.

          Geo.
          =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Obviously you are not =
reading before=20
putting your foot in your mouth.&nbsp; I provided a link to the =
Macrovision=20
press release at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3D=
Tue%20Feb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005">http://www.macrovision.com/compan=
y/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3DTue%20Feb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005</=
A>.&nbsp;=20
You look to be quoting the bozos at theregister.&nbsp; See the =
difference.&nbsp;=20
Macrovision press release =3D=3D credible source of information on =
Macrovision's=20
announcement.&nbsp; the register =3D=3D non-credible source of = information on
most=20
topics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:420ab27f@w3.nls.net">news:420ab27f@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the quote was from your link. Didn't =
you even=20
  read the story you posted a link to?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42078e4e@w3.nls.net">news:42078e4e@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I quoted the press =
release and=20
    identified it providing a link.&nbsp; You quote someone else's =
opinion and=20
    do not identify it.&nbsp; The paranoia I still attribute to =
you.&nbsp; It's=20
    from a pattern of behavior.&nbsp; That you quoted this and =
represented it as=20
    your opinion or reflective of your opinion fits within that=20
    pattern.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
      wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42074f7c$1@w3.nls.net">news:42074f7c$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that was a quote from the =
article, only the=20
      last sentence was mine. Sorry I should have made that clearer but =
you are=20
      now saying the author of the article is paranoid with feelings of=20
      entitlement?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:4206e8d7@w3.nls.net">news:4206e8d7@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; DRM as you are =
using it=20
        is&nbsp;misnomer.&nbsp; Macrovison protection is DRM by the =
definition=20
        you are using.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I see you =
completely ignored=20
        the major feature mentioned first in the paragraph I quoted and=20
        selectively edited your quote to remove the suggestion that this =
other=20
        feature is a secondary one.&nbsp; You also switched the subject =
from=20
        video, the subject of both features in the press release, to =
audio for=20
        some reason.&nbsp; Your paranoia is getting the best of =
you.&nbsp; You=20
        even ignore your own point that you can record the audio output =
if you=20
        wish.&nbsp; I can't even guess what it is you are trying to get =
people=20
        to believe but I'm pretty sure that it bears little relation to =
anything=20
        Macrovision's product does or the benefits of finally allowing =
the PC to=20
        participate with content that today it is precluded from=20
        supporting.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; It should come as =
no surprise=20
        to you that your posts here are similar to your's on other =
discussions=20
        of what entitlements you should have to the&nbsp;work of =
others.&nbsp;=20
        Your paranoia has gotten so great that you see people out to get =
you and=20
        deny you something to which you feel entitled in every =
corner.&nbsp; You=20
        don't even question your feeling of&nbsp;entitlement any=20
        more.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A=20
          href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
          <A=20
          =
href=3D"news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net">news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>As=20
          DRM increasingly restricts what users can do with digital =
data,=20
          the<BR>analog domain remains one way around the problem. In =
the case=20
          of audio, for<BR>instance, digital data ultimate has to be =
converted=20
          into an audio sound wave<BR>which can be recorded and =
re-encoded=20
          without the limitations of the DRM'd<BR>original. MS is aware =
of this=20
          and is clearly hoping to use Macrovision<BR>technology to help =
block=20
          that avenue too.<BR>"An Internet-delivered movie, downloaded =
to a PC,=20
          can now be protected on<BR>analog video playback out of a PC," =
the two=20
          companies claimed.<BR><BR>I don't know Rich, that seems pretty =
clear=20
          to me.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
      =
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