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Text 481, 74 rader
Skriven 2004-09-06 21:41:04 av Geo. (1:379/45)
    Kommentar till text 480 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Spammers faster than the good guys....
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From: "Geo." <georger@nls.net>

He benefited until the spammers walked around the gate.

Geo.

"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:413d0a85$1@w3.nls.net...
   mike already reported that he has benefited and it is not true that everyone
else on the planet has implemented checking.  That pretty much shows your
nonsense for what it is.

Rich

  "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:413d0665$1@w3.nls.net...
  I claimed for mike to benefit, everyone else on the planet (or at least a
vast
  majority) would have to implement spf checking.

  Geo.

  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:413c9097$1@w3.nls.net...
     So then you do believe that mike miller has benefited from publishing his
  specification?

     Or are you just whining again that your imagined claims are flawed?

  Rich

    "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:413c8047$1@w3.nls.net...
    No, I'm saying that the vast majority of postmasters view SPF as a spam
    stopping technology which it is not, because they use the existence of an
SPF
    text record as part of the scoring for emails the spammers have learned
that
    they can reduce their scores by providing that text record and that's
exactly
    what is happening.

    The flip side of the coin is that SPF was designed to prevent backscatter
    "attacks" but these weren't really attacks, the spammers just need a way to
    redirect backscatter away from themselves and SPF provides nothing to stop
  them
    from continuing to do that.

    Geo.

    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:413c6d08$1@w3.nls.net...
       so you are claiming that mike miller's domain has had DNS spoofed to
  change
    the records to allow spam from his domain?

    Rich

      "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:413c676d$3@w3.nls.net...
      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:413abecc@w3.nls.net...

      >>   Furthermore, are you claiming that spammers are actually doing what
    george
      claimed which is to create their own domains and point their MX records
at
    your
      SMTP server?  This latter should be simple to verify since the NDRs you
    receive
      would be for the spammer's domains and not yours and you can see their MX
      records.<<

      What the spammers are doing is following their spambots with dynamic spf
  DNS
      entries.

      Geo.

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