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Text 4834, 190 rader
Skriven 2005-06-11 15:29:46 av Randy (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 4830 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Speaking of entitlement  :-)
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From: "Randy" <@>

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Pot, meet kettle.

"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ab1183@w3.nls.net...
     And people came and left back them too.  I realize you are trying =
hard to spin this to meet your agenda.

  Rich

    "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:sb3ma1th9d5tlvmjcan7obbbnmk4k5pvd1@4ax.com...
    So, do you think Microsoft will return to the growth rate of, say, =
1990
    to 2000?=20

     =
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=3DMSFT&t=3Dmy&l=3Doff&z=3Dl&q=3Dl&c=3D

    That's when it was a vibrant, growing company.  That's when the use =
of
    the stock market to compensate employees actually worked, and =
enabled
    Microsoft to attract and retain "the best and the brightest".

      /m



    On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:49:43 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:

    >   You believe whatever helps you feel better about yourself.
    >
    >Rich
    >
    >  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:i4lla1lvjl9mcj1pa37j21nqevgnidfr2n@4ax.com...
    >
    >  Soounds more like rationalization than explanation.
    >
    >  I agree though that they were looking for change.  The Microsoft =
people
    >  who went to Google were looking for a change, from a stagnant =
company
    >  whose best years have passed by; to a vibrant, growing company =
that's
    >  just beginning.
    >
    >    /m
    >
    >
    >  On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:18:21 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:
    >
    >  >   Interest in google is easy to explain.  For people looking =
for a change but do not want to uproot themselves and move there are few = high
tech businesses in the area particularly those that treat there = employees as
well as Microsoft does.  In the past people have might have = gone to amazon or
real or other local outfits.  During the boom many = went to startups but you
see less of that now that the idea of startups = isn't as popular.
    >  >
    >  >Rich
    >  >
    >  >  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:v1dka151rpc6lk6pbmo5p2ra8vcjo8mos4@4ax.com...
    >  >
    >  >
    >  >  Probably due to the stress caued by Microsoft's problems =
hiring of late,
    >  >  and Google becoming the destination for Microsoft talent.  =
Well I guess
    >  >  that happens when you've trained your workforce to expect to =
be paid by
    >  >  the stock market.
    >  >
    >  >    /m

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pot, meet kettle.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:42ab1183@w3.nls.net">news:42ab1183@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
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  agenda.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:sb3ma1th9d5tlvmjcan7obbbnmk4k5pvd1@4ax.com">news:sb3ma1th9d5=
tlvmjcan7obbbnmk4k5pvd1@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>So,=20
    do you think Microsoft will return to the growth rate of, say, =
1990<BR>to=20
    2000? <BR><BR>&nbsp;<A=20
    =
href=3D"http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=3DMSFT&amp;t=3Dmy&amp;l=3Doff&amp=
;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Dl&amp;c">http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=3DMSFT&amp;t=3Dmy=
&amp;l=3Doff&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Dl&amp;c</A>=3D<BR><BR>That's=20
    when it was a vibrant, growing company.&nbsp; That's when the use =
of<BR>the=20
    stock market to compensate employees actually worked, and=20
    enabled<BR>Microsoft to attract and retain "the best and the=20
    brightest".<BR><BR>&nbsp; /m<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 =
08:49:43=20
    -0700, "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; You believe =
whatever=20
    helps you feel better about=20
    yourself.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Rich<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Mike '/m'" =
&lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:i4lla1lvjl9mcj1pa37j21nqevgnidfr2n@4ax.com">news:i4lla1lvjl9=
mcj1pa37j21nqevgnidfr2n@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
    Soounds more like rationalization than =
explanation.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I=20
    agree though that they were looking for change.&nbsp; The Microsoft=20
    people<BR>&gt;&nbsp; who went to Google were looking for a change, =
from a=20
    stagnant company<BR>&gt;&nbsp; whose best years have passed by; to a =

    vibrant, growing company that's<BR>&gt;&nbsp; just=20
    beginning.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    /m<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:18:21 -0700, =
"Rich"=20
    &lt;@&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Interest in =
google=20
    is easy to explain.&nbsp; For people looking for a change but do not =
want to=20
    uproot themselves and move there are few high tech businesses in the =
area=20
    particularly those that treat there employees as well as Microsoft=20
    does.&nbsp; In the past people have might have gone to amazon or =
real or=20
    other local outfits.&nbsp; During the boom many went to startups but =
you see=20
    less of that now that the idea of startups isn't as =
popular.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
    "Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:v1dka151rpc6lk6pbmo5p2ra8vcjo8mos4@4ax.com">news:v1dka151rpc=
6lk6pbmo5p2ra8vcjo8mos4@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Probably due to the =
stress=20
    caued by Microsoft's problems hiring of late,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; and=20
    Google becoming the destination for Microsoft talent.&nbsp; Well I=20
    guess<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; that happens when you've trained your =

    workforce to expect to be paid by<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; the stock =

    market.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  /m<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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