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Skriven 2005-07-05 00:00:48 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5653 av Mark (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: An Army of Soulless 1's and 0's
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   For mail only they are on par with the others and have some features =
like pop3 access that others don't include in free accounts.  At the = same
time they lack features others provide for free like a calendar and = IM
integration and support fewer languages.  For a fee others provide = more.

Rich

  "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:42ca063b@w3.nls.net...
  Oh, yea, I didn't mean to imply that Google was "special" in any way =
(I've no horse in their race), I just meant to note that they're still = free
and offer, so far as I know (and so far), the same features as the = paid
accounts in the premium alternatives from whomever.
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ca0144$1@w3.nls.net...
       I believe all the major email providers have been learning from =
reported spam for a while.  Hotmail and MSN have.

    Rich

      "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:42c9fb07$1@w3.nls.net...
      Google's gmail also puts almost all the spam in the spam folder =
and "learns"=20
      as well, both from "report spam" on an individual level <as well =
as, I'm=20
      sure, consolidation from all "reports">

      I've been pleased with it and decided to forward all my other =
accounts to=20
      it, so use it exclusively at this point. <if I need to send an =
email "from"=20
      a particular account I just use that accounts webmail set-up, so =
haven't=20
      launched Outlook (or Eudora) since I started forwarding>


      "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message=20
      news:04tjc114o6fhquifr83u4j6i2v6o6rull4@4ax.com...
      > Agree re Yahoo.   I have a throwaway account with them and am =
seriously
      > considering getting a real one.  They put most of the spam into =
the spam
      > folder by themselves, and you can mark something in the regular =
folder
      > spam and it learns from that.
      >
      > On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:28:34 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> =
wrote in
      > message <g4eic1hb5d1v6lfidmvchleduslt3iargk@4ax.com>:
      >
      >>
      >>When my sister-in-law's PC became a zombie, her ISP (adelphia =
cable)
      >>turned off her email account.  She could neither send nor =
receive email.
      >>For my sister-in-law, that was about the same as taking away the =
PC.
      >>
      >>Since then, I have hardened her PC and switched her away from =
Lookout!
      >>Distress and over to Yahoo! email.  She is a lot happier now.  =
Yahoo!
      >>seems to do a good job blocking malicious stuff in the emails.
      >>
      >> /m
      >>
      >>
      >>On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:41:43 -0700, Ellen K. =
<72322.1016@compuserve.com>
      >>wrote:
      >>
      >>>Ha, imagine if anyone found to be running a zombie machine had =
their
      >>>computer taken away from them!!!!!!!
      >>>
      >>>On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:08:56 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote in message
      >>><42c4b2b7@w3.nls.net>:
      >>>
      >>>>   There are obvious conclusions.  Just consider why your =
machine is not=20
      >>>> infected when you run the same software.  You exercise better =

      >>>> judgement.  Would you claim that car accidents from DUIs are =
due to a=20
      >>>> problem with the cars or the drivers?  Are the folks that =
have not been=20
      >>>> DUI lucky their car didn't make them DUI or might they =
exercise better=20
      >>>> judgement?
      >=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; For mail only they are on =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mark" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:nomail@hotmail.com">nomail@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42ca063b@w3.nls.net">news:42ca063b@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, yea, I didn't mean to imply that =
Google was=20
  "special" in any way (I've no horse in their race), I just meant to =
note that=20
  they're still free and offer, so far as I know (and so far), the same =
features=20
  as the paid accounts in the premium alternatives from =
whomever.</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42ca0144$1@w3.nls.net">news:42ca0144$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe all the =
major email=20
    providers have been learning from reported spam for a while.&nbsp; =
Hotmail=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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      <DIV>"Mark" &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:nomail@hotmail.com">nomail@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
      message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42c9fb07$1@w3.nls.net">news:42c9fb07$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Google's=20
      gmail also puts almost all the spam in the spam folder and =
"learns" <BR>as=20
      well, both from "report spam" on an individual level &lt;as well =
as, I'm=20
      <BR>sure, consolidation from all "reports"&gt;<BR><BR>I've been =
pleased=20
      with it and decided to forward all my other accounts to <BR>it, so =
use it=20
      exclusively at this point. &lt;if I need to send an email "from" =
<BR>a=20
      particular account I just use that accounts webmail set-up, so =
haven't=20
      <BR>launched Outlook (or Eudora) since I started=20
      forwarding&gt;<BR><BR><BR>"Ellen K." &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com">72322.1016@compuserve.com</A>&g=
t;=20
      wrote in message <BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"news:04tjc114o6fhquifr83u4j6i2v6o6rull4@4ax.com">news:04tjc114o6f=
hquifr83u4j6i2v6o6rull4@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
      Agree re Yahoo.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a throwaway account with them =
and am=20
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most of=20
      the spam into the spam<BR>&gt; folder by themselves, and you can =
mark=20
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      that.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:28:34 -0400, Mike =
'/m' &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in<BR>&gt;=20
      message &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:g4eic1hb5d1v6lfidmvchleduslt3iargk@4ax.com">g4eic1hb5d1v6l=
fidmvchleduslt3iargk@4ax.com</A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;When=
=20
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      cable)<BR>&gt;&gt;turned off her email account.&nbsp; She could =
neither=20
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about=20
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I have=20
      hardened her PC and switched her away from =
Lookout!<BR>&gt;&gt;Distress=20
      and over to Yahoo! email.&nbsp; She is a lot happier now.&nbsp;=20
      Yahoo!<BR>&gt;&gt;seems to do a good job blocking malicious stuff =
in the=20
      emails.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
/m<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;On=20
      Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:41:43 -0700, Ellen K. &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com">72322.1016@compuserve.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;&gt;wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Ha,=20
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      them!!!!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 =
20:08:56=20
      -0700, "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:42c4b2b7@w3.nls.net">42c4b2b7@w3.nls.net</A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;&=
gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      There are obvious conclusions.&nbsp; Just consider why your =
machine is not=20
      <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; infected when you run the same =
software.&nbsp; You=20
      exercise better <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; judgement.&nbsp; Would you =
claim that=20
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with the=20
      cars or the drivers?&nbsp; Are the folks that have not been=20
      <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; DUI lucky their car didn't make them DUI or =
might=20
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