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Kommentar till text 5671 av Tony Ingenoso (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Productivity
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Let me remind everyone of your claim so that you know what it is you =
are trying to support. You clearly forgot what you wrote. Remember to =
include Windows 3.1 and OS/2 in your reply and also to support your = claim of
software being slower.
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message =
news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net...
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on my =
comparason.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net...
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not games nor =
likely multimedia) that has gotten slower. Since you mention the 486 I = would
expect the comparison to be between someone that purchased a new = computer and
software in 1989 when the 486 was introduced and someone = that purchases a new
computer and software today.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message =
news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net...
Examples of what?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31595@w3.nls.net...
Can you give real world examples?
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net...
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm not =
convinced
anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually made =
ordinary
users more productive in meaningful ways.
The software has gotten slower about as fast as the hardware has =
gotten
faster ;->
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message =
news:42cacd68@w3.nls.net...
FACT: Microsoft shipped NT4 and several modern versions of Office and =
IE/OE
that support 486 class machines.
QED
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ca228b@w3.nls.net...
Still trying to change the topic. You made a claim. Support your =
claim
with facts. Asking random questions is not supporting your claims.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42ca2080$1@w3.nls.net...
OK, I'll wast the bandwidth is you want.
So why is it again that NT4 and IE/OE's through at least 6.X support =
the
486?
If they're not productive, why do you support them?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c8a45b@w3.nls.net...
Still trying to change the topic. Let's remind everyone of what =
you
wrote. If you want to save bandwidth please answer the question and
provide
support for the claims you made.
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net...
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on my =
comparason.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net...
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not games =
nor
likely multimedia) that has gotten slower. Since you mention the =
486 I
would expect the comparison to be between someone that purchased a =
new
computer and software in 1989 when the 486 was introduced and =
someone that
purchases a new computer and software today.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net...
Examples of what?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31595@w3.nls.net...
Can you give real world examples?
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net...
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm not
convinced
anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually =
made
ordinary
users more productive in meaningful ways.
The software has gotten slower about as fast as the hardware =
has
gotten
faster ;->
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c83368@w3.nls.net...
How many 486 class machines shipped with Win95 preloaded?
Is the number more than zero?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c7270f@w3.nls.net...
Good that you admit that part of your claim was bullshit. Now =
how
about
the rest?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Let me remind everyone of =
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A href=3D"">admin@spamcop.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A href=3D"">news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I reject =
the notion=20
of you placing such constraints on my comparason.<BR><BR>"Rich" =
<@>=20
wrote in message <A href=3D"">news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Of software =
users use for=20
productivity tasks (e.g. not games nor likely multimedia) that =
has=20
gotten slower. Since you mention the 486 I would expect the =
comparison=20
to be between someone that purchased a new computer and software in =
1989=20
when the 486 was introduced and someone that purchases a new =
computer and=20
software today.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A href=3D"">admin@spamcop.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A href=3D"">news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Examples =
of=20
what?<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"">news:42c31595@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR> Can you =
give real=20
world examples?<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in message<BR><A=20
href=3D"">news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR> In terms of =
real life=20
bankable productivity gains, I'm not convinced<BR> anything =
since=20
about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually made =
ordinary<BR> users=20
more productive in meaningful ways.<BR><BR> The software has =
gotten=20
slower about as fast as the hardware has gotten<BR> faster=20
=
;-></FONT><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42cacd68@w3.nls.net">news:42cacd68@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>FA=
CT:=20
Microsoft shipped NT4 and several modern versions of Office and =
IE/OE<BR>that=20
support 486 class machines.<BR><BR>QED<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote =
in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42ca228b@w3.nls.net">news:42ca228b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Still trying to change the topic. You made a claim. =
Support your=20
claim<BR>with facts. Asking random questions is not supporting =
your=20
claims.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42ca2080$1@w3.nls.net">news:42ca2080$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
OK, I'll wast the bandwidth is you want.<BR><BR> So why is it =
again that=20
NT4 and IE/OE's through at least 6.X support the<BR> =
486?<BR><BR> =20
If they're not productive, why do you support them?<BR><BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c8a45b@w3.nls.net">news:42c8a45b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Still trying to change the topic. Let's remind everyone of what=20
you<BR> wrote. If you want to save bandwidth please answer =
the=20
question and<BR>provide<BR> support for the claims you=20
made.<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net">news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on my=20
comparason.<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net">news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR><BR>=
=20
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not games =
nor<BR> =20
likely multimedia) that has gotten slower. Since you mention the =
486=20
I<BR> would expect the comparison to be between someone that =
purchased a=20
new<BR> computer and software in 1989 when the 486 was =
introduced and=20
someone that<BR> purchases a new computer and software=20
today.<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR> <A=20
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href=3D"news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net">news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Examples of what?<BR><BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:42c31595@w3.nls.net">news:42c31595@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Can you give real world=20
examples?<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> =
"Tony=20
Ingenoso" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net">news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm=20
=
not<BR>convinced<BR>  =
;=20
anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually =
made<BR> =20
ordinary<BR> =
users more=20
productive in meaningful=20
ways.<BR><BR> =
The=20
software has gotten slower about as fast as the hardware has<BR> =
gotten<BR> =
faster=20
;-><BR><BR><BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> "Tony =
Ingenoso"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c83368@w3.nls.net">news:42c83368@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
How many 486 class machines shipped with Win95=20
preloaded?<BR><BR> Is the number more than=20
zero?<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c7270f@w3.nls.net">news:42c7270f@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Good that you admit that part of your claim was bullshit. Now=20
how<BR> about<BR> the=20
rest?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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