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Skriven 2005-07-05 16:58:54 av Randy (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 5669 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: An Army of Soulless 1's and 0's
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From: "Randy" <@>
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2 datapoints out of millions is statistically insigificant, therefore =
insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, this thread = ends.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42cab5ea@w3.nls.net...
If proof is insufficient they you will never be satisfied. You may =
as well join mike miller in his spin.
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42ca8208@w3.nls.net...
Still insufficient.=20
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ca00ea@w3.nls.net...
Proof by example. People here other than I have done it. =
Haven't you?
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42c9d965@w3.nls.net...
Sice you haven't proven it the answer is still no.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c9b036@w3.nls.net...
The answer to his question is yes so by your definition it =
is also spin, spin, spin.
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42c9748c@w3.nls.net...
It's not spin if this does happen. So far, you haven't =
proven that it doesn't.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42be01f9$1@w3.nls.net...
Spin, spin, spin. How very typical mike miller.
Rich
"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78@4ax.com...
Yup. The question is: can you install Windows on a PC =
that is connected
to the internet via broadband, and get that system =
patched before it is
infested?
/m
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" =
<admin@spamcop.net>
wrote:
>So? That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of minutes
>anyway.
>
>"Rich" <@> wrote in message =
news:42bde926$1@w3.nls.net...
Did you read the article lead in that was posted. =
Let me quote it again
For thousands of Internet users, the offer seemed all =
too alluring: revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere = click
of the mouse.
But the pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, =
and the click downloaded software code that turned the user's computer = into a
launching pad for Internet warfare.
Whether or not people reinstall or use firewalls makes =
no difference when users go out of their way to infect themselves. = Antivirus
and antispyware applications that use rules to block user = action can help
here but those won't block something they don't know = about and if they do
warn the user and require confirmation likely many = users will approve that
just as they confirmed their action when warned = for the initial download
attempt.
Rich
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2 datapoints out of millions is statistically =
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If proof is insufficient =
they you=20
will never be satisfied. You may as well join mike miller in his =
spin.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Still insufficient. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Proof by =
example. People=20
here other than I have done it. Haven't you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sice you haven't proven it the answer is =
still=20
no.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The answer to =
his question=20
is yes so by your definition it is also spin, spin, =
spin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's not spin if this does happen. So =
far, you=20
haven't proven that it doesn't.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Spin, spin, =
spin. =20
How very typical mike miller.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mike '/m'" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
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href=3D"news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78@4ax.com">news:jsvrb1lgj40=
fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78@4ax.com</A>...</DIV><BR>Yup. =20
The question is: can you install Windows on a PC that is =
connected<BR>to the internet via broadband, and get that =
system=20
patched before it is<BR>infested?<BR><BR> =
/m<BR><BR>On=20
Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>><BR>wrote:<BR>=
<BR>>So? =20
That means nothing if they're exploited within a matter =
of=20
minutes<BR>>anyway.<BR>><BR>>"Rich" <@> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
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href=3D"news:42bde926$1@w3.nls.net">news:42bde926$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Did you =
read the=20
article lead in that was posted. Let me quote it=20
again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2>For =
thousands of=20
Internet users, the offer seemed all too alluring: =
revealing=20
pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere click =
of the=20
mouse.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000>But the=20
pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, and the =
click=20
downloaded software code that turned the user's =
computer into=20
a launching pad for Internet=20
warfare.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whether or not people =
reinstall or=20
use firewalls makes no difference when users go out of =
their way=20
to infect themselves. Antivirus and antispyware=20
applications that use rules to block user action can =
help here=20
but those won't block something they don't know about =
and if=20
they do warn the user and require confirmation likely =
many users=20
will approve that just as they confirmed their action =
when=20
warned for the initial download attempt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQ=
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