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Skriven 2005-07-11 19:33:48 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5904 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Continuing Microsoft Office improvements
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   Which is why george's question is irrelevant.  Your bogus claim is =
"The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 was good =
enough for 95% of the market."  George's irrelevant question has no = bearing
on your bogus made up claim.

   It is interesting to note that no one here, not even you, is using =
the ancient versions with which you claim 95% of them would be = satisfied.

Rich

  "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d32636@w3.nls.net...
  I never said 95% of people used Office 5.  Go back and re-read the =
messages.

  Gary

  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d32432@w3.nls.net...
     Irrelevant question and you fail to fall ib gary's bogus 95% unless =
you
  would be satisfied with Office 5.0 for Windows 3.1.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net...
    Ok time for a survey.

    I run Office 2000, what versions do the rest of you run?

    Geo.

      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d29689@w3.nls.net...
         If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full of it and =
just
  making up junk to sound as if you know something.  Use "some" if you =
mean
  some.

      Rich

        "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
  news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net...
        I never said it wasn't.  What is it about the definition of the =
words
  "I
        Suspect" that seem to so trouble your reading comprehension.  =
Quit
  being
        such a touchy ass about this.  Its not my fault nobody wants to
  upgrade
        their MS Office software.

        Your employer needs to build a business model that doesn't rely =
upon
  full
        cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 months.  That =
isn't
  my
        fault either.  Eventually, people say "wait a minute", again not =
my
  fault.

        I guess Microsoft could get lots of office upgrades if they just =
make
        Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS Office except =
<FILL IN
  NAME
        OF VERSION HERE>.

        Gary

        "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d28167@w3.nls.net...
           And I still think you have no clue.  The 95% you keep =
claiming is a
        number you pulled out of thin air.

        Rich

          "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
        news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net...
          You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the =
USA.

          I never said there weren't *improvements* from Office 5.0 to =
the
  later
          versions.  I am saying those *improvements* are meaningless to =
95%
  of the
          market, and in MANY or MOST situations those *improvements* =
are
  offset by
          dis-incentives and negative changes that are more negative =
than the
          improvements are positive.

          I like office 2000, have no plans to go above office 2000.  =
Truth
  is, I
          could easily stayed with Office 5.  I suspect that truth holds =
for
  95% of
          the market within my perspective.

          Gary

          "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
             95% what market?  You surely do not mean people that speak =
many
          non-Western languages because Unicode support did not appear =
until
  Office
        97
          and support for more languages and better support for existing =
ones
          continued to improve with successive releases.  With your =
broad
  brush you
          are discounting a great deal of the people on this planet.  =
Far more
  than
          5%.  Western European language speaker are the minority.  Even =
you
  would
          have to be blind to not see the clear improvements between =
Office
  5.0 or
          even Office 95 and Office 2000.

             I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the =
two
        releases
          since the one you use.  If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all =
which
  Office
          2003 applications you use and what differences you perceived.

          Rich

            "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
          news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
            The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for =
Win3.1 was
  good
            enough for 95% of the market.

            I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the
  horizon of
          going
            higher.

            Gary




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Which is why george's =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d32636@w3.nls.net">news:42d32636@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I =
never=20
  said 95% of people used Office 5.&nbsp; Go back and re-read the=20
  messages.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d32432@w3.nls.net">news:42d32432@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  Irrelevant question and you fail to fall ib gary's bogus 95% unless=20
  you<BR>would be satisfied with Office 5.0 for Windows=20
  3.1.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Geo" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;=20
  Ok time for a survey.<BR><BR>&nbsp; I run Office 2000, what versions =
do the=20
  rest of you run?<BR><BR>&nbsp; Geo.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich" =
&lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d29689@w3.nls.net">news:42d29689@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full of it and =
just<BR>making=20
  up junk to sound as if you know something.&nbsp; Use "some" if you=20
  mean<BR>some.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  I never said it wasn't.&nbsp; What is it about the definition of the=20
  words<BR>"I<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Suspect" that seem to so =
trouble=20
  your reading comprehension.&nbsp;=20
  Quit<BR>being<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; such a touchy ass =
about=20
  this.&nbsp; Its not my fault nobody wants=20
  to<BR>upgrade<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; their MS Office=20
  software.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Your employer needs to =
build a=20
  business model that doesn't rely=20
  upon<BR>full<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cost monopoly priced =
upgrades=20
  of products every 9 months.&nbsp; That=20
  isn't<BR>my<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; fault either.&nbsp; =
Eventually,=20
  people say "wait a minute", again not=20
  my<BR>fault.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I guess Microsoft =
could get=20
  lots of office upgrades if they just =
make<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS Office except &lt;FILL=20
  IN<BR>NAME<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; OF VERSION=20
  HERE&gt;.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Gary<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in =
message=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d28167@w3.nls.net">news:42d28167@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  And I still think you have no clue.&nbsp; The 95% you keep claiming is =

  a<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; number you pulled out of thin=20
  air.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Gary Britt" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the=20
  USA.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I never said =
there=20
  weren't *improvements* from Office 5.0 to=20
  the<BR>later<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
versions.&nbsp; I=20
  am saying those *improvements* are meaningless to 95%<BR>of=20
  the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; market, and in MANY =
or MOST=20
  situations those *improvements* are<BR>offset=20
  by<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dis-incentives and =
negative=20
  changes that are more negative than=20
  the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; improvements are=20
  positive.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I like =
office=20
  2000, have no plans to go above office 2000.&nbsp; Truth<BR>is,=20
  I<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; could easily stayed =
with=20
  Office 5.&nbsp; I suspect that truth holds for<BR>95%=20
  of<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the market within my=20
  perspective.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Gary<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich" =
&lt;@&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  95% what market?&nbsp; You surely do not mean people that speak=20
  many<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; non-Western =
languages=20
  because Unicode support did not appear=20
  until<BR>Office<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  97<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and support for more=20
  languages and better support for existing=20
  ones<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; continued to =
improve with=20
  successive releases.&nbsp; With your broad<BR>brush=20
  you<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; are discounting a =
great deal=20
  of the people on this planet.&nbsp; Far=20
  more<BR>than<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5%.&nbsp; =
Western=20
  European language speaker are the minority.&nbsp; Even=20
  you<BR>would<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; have to be =
blind to=20
  not see the clear improvements between Office<BR>5.0=20
  or<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; even Office 95 and =
Office=20
  =
2000.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 I=20
  suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the=20
  two<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  releases<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; since the one =
you=20
  use.&nbsp; If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all=20
  which<BR>Office<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2003=20
  applications you use and what differences you=20
  perceived.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"Gary=20
  Britt" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1=20
  was<BR>good<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
enough=20
  for 95% of the=20
  market.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I've=20
  stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the<BR>horizon=20
  of<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  going<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  higher.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Gary<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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