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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>
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I don't know if I'd be satisfied with that version since I didn't start = using
office until Office 97. However I'm completely satisfied using = Qpro version 5
from 1993 so I don't see why I should consider his = statement false simply
because I don't have a version that old.
For me it's not a question of which version was good enough, I like to = keep
current so the question is at which version does or did it become =
unacceptable. Typically becoming unacceptable is why I stop upgrading a =
product.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d32432@w3.nls.net...
Irrelevant question and you fail to fall ib gary's bogus 95% unless =
you would be satisfied with Office 5.0 for Windows 3.1.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net...
Ok time for a survey.
I run Office 2000, what versions do the rest of you run?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d29689@w3.nls.net...
If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full of it and =
just making up junk to sound as if you know something. Use "some" if = you
mean some.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net...
I never said it wasn't. What is it about the definition of the =
words "I
Suspect" that seem to so trouble your reading comprehension. =
Quit being
such a touchy ass about this. Its not my fault nobody wants to =
upgrade
their MS Office software.
Your employer needs to build a business model that doesn't rely =
upon full
cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 months. That =
isn't my
fault either. Eventually, people say "wait a minute", again not =
my fault.
I guess Microsoft could get lots of office upgrades if they just =
make
Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS Office except =
<FILL IN NAME
OF VERSION HERE>.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d28167@w3.nls.net...
And I still think you have no clue. The 95% you keep =
claiming is a
number you pulled out of thin air.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net...
You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the =
USA.
I never said there weren't *improvements* from Office 5.0 to =
the later
versions. I am saying those *improvements* are meaningless to =
95% of the
market, and in MANY or MOST situations those *improvements* =
are offset by
dis-incentives and negative changes that are more negative =
than the
improvements are positive.
I like office 2000, have no plans to go above office 2000. =
Truth is, I
could easily stayed with Office 5. I suspect that truth holds =
for 95% of
the market within my perspective.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
95% what market? You surely do not mean people that speak =
many
non-Western languages because Unicode support did not appear =
until Office
97
and support for more languages and better support for existing =
ones
continued to improve with successive releases. With your =
broad brush you
are discounting a great deal of the people on this planet. =
Far more than
5%. Western European language speaker are the minority. Even =
you would
have to be blind to not see the clear improvements between =
Office 5.0 or
even Office 95 and Office 2000.
I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the =
two
releases
since the one you use. If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all =
which Office
2003 applications you use and what differences you perceived.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for =
Win3.1 was good
enough for 95% of the market.
I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the =
horizon of
going
higher.
Gary
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know if I'd be satisfied with =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me it's not a question of which =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Irrelevant question and =
you fail to=20
fall ib gary's bogus 95% unless you would be satisfied with Office 5.0 =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok time for a survey.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I run Office 2000, what versions do =
the rest of=20
you run?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If you truly expect =
95% than I=20
believe you are full of it and just making up junk to sound as if =
you know=20
something. Use "some" if you mean some.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>> wrote = in=20
message <A=20
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V>I=20
never said it wasn't. What is it about the definition of =
the words=20
"I<BR>Suspect" that seem to so trouble your reading =
comprehension. =20
Quit being<BR>such a touchy ass about this. Its not my =
fault=20
nobody wants to upgrade<BR>their MS Office software.<BR><BR>Your =
employer needs to build a business model that doesn't rely upon=20
full<BR>cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 =
months. =20
That isn't my<BR>fault either. Eventually, people say =
"wait a=20
minute", again not my fault.<BR><BR>I guess Microsoft could get =
lots of=20
office upgrades if they just make<BR>Longhorn incompatible with =
every=20
version of MS Office except <FILL IN NAME<BR>OF VERSION=20
HERE>.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in message =
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d28167@w3.nls.net">news:42d28167@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
And I still think you have no clue. The 95% you keep =
claiming is=20
a<BR>number you pulled out of thin =
air.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Gary=20
Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>> wrote = in=20
message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the=20
USA.<BR><BR> I never said there weren't *improvements* =
from Office=20
5.0 to the later<BR> versions. I am saying those=20
*improvements* are meaningless to 95% of the<BR> market, =
and in=20
MANY or MOST situations those *improvements* are offset =
by<BR> =20
dis-incentives and negative changes that are more negative than=20
the<BR> improvements are positive.<BR><BR> I like =
office=20
2000, have no plans to go above office 2000. Truth is, =
I<BR> =20
could easily stayed with Office 5. I suspect that truth =
holds for=20
95% of<BR> the market within my perspective.<BR><BR> =
Gary<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
95% what market? You surely do not mean people that speak=20
many<BR> non-Western languages because Unicode support did =
not=20
appear until Office<BR>97<BR> and support for more =
languages and=20
better support for existing ones<BR> continued to improve =
with=20
successive releases. With your broad brush you<BR> =
are=20
discounting a great deal of the people on this planet. Far =
more=20
than<BR> 5%. Western European language speaker are =
the=20
minority. Even you would<BR> have to be blind to not =
see the=20
clear improvements between Office 5.0 or<BR> even Office =
95 and=20
Office 2000.<BR><BR> I suspect you have =
no clue=20
what the improvements are in the two<BR>releases<BR> since =
the one=20
you use. If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all which=20
Office<BR> 2003 applications you use and what differences =
you=20
perceived.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> "Gary =
Britt"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 =
was=20
good<BR> enough for 95% of the=20
market.<BR><BR> I've stayed at the Office 2K =
level=20
with no intention on the horizon of<BR> =20
going<BR> higher.<BR><BR> =20
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