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Skriven 2005-07-25 10:57:54 av Robert Comer (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 6323 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS Antispyware uses VB6 runtime?
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From: "Robert Comer" <bobcomer_removeme@mindspring.com>

I don't know about that, but it is definitely worth a shot. I've tried to help
corporate before with it and they are definitely stubborn about such things.

- Bob Comer <They're French...>


"Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
news:42e4f9dc@w3.nls.net...
> Might just make you a hero at work!! <g>
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:42e46b74$1@w3.nls.net...
>> > Try a program called TameDos that will help tremendously with your
> clipper
>> > dos app stuff on any version of windows.  www.tamedos.com
>>
>> Thanks, I'll look at that.
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
>> news:42e4520f$1@w3.nls.net...
>> > Try a program called TameDos that will help tremendously with your
> clipper
>> > dos app stuff on any version of windows.  www.tamedos.com
>> >
>> > A new version 5 is due out soon.  Will be a free upgrade if you buy
>> > now.
>> > You can try it 30 days for free.  Should solve your problems.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> > news:42e44541$1@w3.nls.net...
>> >> > There are way too many applications out there written in VB6 for
>> >> > them
>> >> > to
>> >> > make it impossible to run VB6 apps,
>> >>
>> >> All I can say is they made a dreadful decision in not having a clear
>> > upgrade
>> >> path, it's the first development tools/language vendor I've ever known
> to
>> > do
>> >> that, and there's probably more VB6 coders out there right now than
>> >> any
>> >> other language.
>> >>
>> >> It just doesn't make business sense to trust that VB6 stuff will keep
>> >> running.
>> >>
>> >> >heck, it's still possible to run DOS
>> >> > apps.
>> >>
>> >> Our parent company is having serious problems keeping their DOS
>> >> clipper
>> > app
>> >> running on XP, memory issues that weren't there before...
>> >>
>> >> >And .Net has "COM Interop".
>> >>
>> >> That doesn't help upgrading VB6 code all that much. (That help in
> calling
>> >> old COM components from vb.net)
>> >>
>> >> - Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:7oe8e15569eq6ortjohk7aaenqkmb6dg6g@4ax.com...
>> >> > There are way too many applications out there written in VB6 for
>> >> > them
>> >> > to
>> >> > make it impossible to run VB6 apps, heck, it's still possible to run
>> >> > DOS
>> >> > apps.  And .Net has "COM Interop".
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:12:30 -0400, "Robert Comer"
>> >> > <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message <42e3f4f7$1@w3.nls.net>:
>> >> >
>> >> >>> I'm not saying use the upgrade wizard rather than rewrite, I'm
> saying
>> >> >>> leave it in VB6.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>As I've said before, there's no guarantee the VB6 development
>> > environment
>> >> >>will continue to function *now*, much less in the future. (sure, you
>> >> >>can
>> >> >>get
>> >> >>paid for support if it breaks, but it's not cheap)  And as anyone
> knows
>> >> >>with
>> >> >>corporate environments, you need to be able to fix this as business
>> > rules
>> >> >>change, or there are bugs discovered.  And past longhorn, there's no
>> >> >>guarantee the VB6 runtime will function ever. (and only a nebulous
>> >> >>guarantee
>> >> >>it'll be supported in longhorn)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>To sum it up, it's to high a risk *not* to rewrite it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>- Bob Comer
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:urs7e11kqsqbusrpem0uom8osd2vm0nqgb@4ax.com...
>> >> >>> I'm not saying use the upgrade wizard rather than rewrite, I'm
> saying
>> >> >>> leave it in VB6.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:02:08 -0400, "Robert Comer"
>> >> >>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message <42e3901a@w3.nls.net>:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>I don't think you have to rewrite your old stuff.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>If you want it to run well you do.  The changes between VB6 and
>> >> >>>>VB.NET
>> >> >>>>is
>> >> >>>>massive.  Running it through the VB.NET upgrade wizard does not
>> >> >>>>get
>> > you
>> >> >>>>a
>> >> >>>>working program if the program is any more advanced than a "Hello
>> > world"
>> >> >>>>type.  Sure, given a lot of time you can fix the differences, but
>> >> >>>>that
>> >> >>>>same
>> >> >>>>amount of time can most likely be taken to do a rewrite using all
> the
>> >> >>>>new
>> >> >>>>stuff (or a different language altogether.)
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>- Bob Comer
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>"Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>news:din6e1hna3158pa89es1380tal3lkvt7bd@4ax.com...
>> >> >>>>>I don't think you have to rewrite your old stuff.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:54:36 -0400, "Robert Comer"
>> >> >>>>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> <42e22095$1@w3.nls.net>:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> If the spyware product they acquired was not based on VB.NET,
> how
>> >> >>>>>>> can
>> >> >>>>>>> they
>> >> >>>>>>> be asking why MS is not using VB.NET? Did they expect MS to
>> > rewrite
>> >> >>>>>>> it?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Actually yes, everyone should expect them to rewrite it, after
> all,
>> >> >>>>>>Microsoft told all those millions of VB6 developers out there
> that
>> >> >>>>>>they
>> >> >>>>>>had
>> >> >>>>>>to rewrite their apps by deadending VB6 like they did.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Did VB.NET even exist when the product development began?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>It didn't exist when all our VB5/VB6 code was written, but so
> what,
>> >> >>>>>>that
>> >> >>>>>>doesn't mean that I don't have to rewrite everything to insure
>> >> >>>>>>it
>> >> >>>>>>keeps
>> >> >>>>>>working in the future.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>- Bob Comer
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>"Gregg N" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>news:42e1bdf1$1@w3.nls.net...
>> >> >>>>>>> Rich Gauszka wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>Microsoft acquired Giant, the company that produced the
>> >> >>>>>>>>Spyware
>> >> >>>>>>>>detection
>> >> >>>>>>>>program, in December 2004, and lost no time in making it
>> >> >>>>>>>>available
>> >> >>>>>>>>to
>> >> >>>>>>>>users the following month.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>"This whole issue begs the question," writes our reader, "why
> is
>> >> >>>>>>>>Microsoft
>> >> >>>>>>>>using an unsupported development environment against their own
>> >> >>>>>>>>guidelines?
>> >> >>>>>>>>Just another case of' 'Do what I say, not what I do'...
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> If the spyware product they acquired was not based on VB.NET,
> how
>> >> >>>>>>> can
>> >> >>>>>>> they
>> >> >>>>>>> be asking why MS is not using VB.NET? Did they expect MS to
>> > rewrite
>> >> >>>>>>> it?
>> >> >>>>>>> Did VB.NET even exist when the product development began?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Gregg
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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