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Skriven 2005-07-25 10:45:16 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 6321 av Robert Comer (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS Antispyware uses VB6 runtime?
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From: "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com>

Might just make you a hero at work!! <g>

Gary

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:42e46b74$1@w3.nls.net...
> > Try a program called TameDos that will help tremendously with your
clipper
> > dos app stuff on any version of windows.  www.tamedos.com
>
> Thanks, I'll look at that.
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> news:42e4520f$1@w3.nls.net...
> > Try a program called TameDos that will help tremendously with your
clipper
> > dos app stuff on any version of windows.  www.tamedos.com
> >
> > A new version 5 is due out soon.  Will be a free upgrade if you buy now.
> > You can try it 30 days for free.  Should solve your problems.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:42e44541$1@w3.nls.net...
> >> > There are way too many applications out there written in VB6 for them
> >> > to
> >> > make it impossible to run VB6 apps,
> >>
> >> All I can say is they made a dreadful decision in not having a clear
> > upgrade
> >> path, it's the first development tools/language vendor I've ever known
to
> > do
> >> that, and there's probably more VB6 coders out there right now than any
> >> other language.
> >>
> >> It just doesn't make business sense to trust that VB6 stuff will keep
> >> running.
> >>
> >> >heck, it's still possible to run DOS
> >> > apps.
> >>
> >> Our parent company is having serious problems keeping their DOS clipper
> > app
> >> running on XP, memory issues that weren't there before...
> >>
> >> >And .Net has "COM Interop".
> >>
> >> That doesn't help upgrading VB6 code all that much. (That help in
calling
> >> old COM components from vb.net)
> >>
> >> - Bob Comer
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7oe8e15569eq6ortjohk7aaenqkmb6dg6g@4ax.com...
> >> > There are way too many applications out there written in VB6 for them
> >> > to
> >> > make it impossible to run VB6 apps, heck, it's still possible to run
> >> > DOS
> >> > apps.  And .Net has "COM Interop".
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:12:30 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >> > <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message <42e3f4f7$1@w3.nls.net>:
> >> >
> >> >>> I'm not saying use the upgrade wizard rather than rewrite, I'm
saying
> >> >>> leave it in VB6.
> >> >>
> >> >>As I've said before, there's no guarantee the VB6 development
> > environment
> >> >>will continue to function *now*, much less in the future. (sure, you
> >> >>can
> >> >>get
> >> >>paid for support if it breaks, but it's not cheap)  And as anyone
knows
> >> >>with
> >> >>corporate environments, you need to be able to fix this as business
> > rules
> >> >>change, or there are bugs discovered.  And past longhorn, there's no
> >> >>guarantee the VB6 runtime will function ever. (and only a nebulous
> >> >>guarantee
> >> >>it'll be supported in longhorn)
> >> >>
> >> >>To sum it up, it's to high a risk *not* to rewrite it.
> >> >>
> >> >>- Bob Comer
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:urs7e11kqsqbusrpem0uom8osd2vm0nqgb@4ax.com...
> >> >>> I'm not saying use the upgrade wizard rather than rewrite, I'm
saying
> >> >>> leave it in VB6.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:02:08 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >> >>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message <42e3901a@w3.nls.net>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>I don't think you have to rewrite your old stuff.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>If you want it to run well you do.  The changes between VB6 and
> >> >>>>VB.NET
> >> >>>>is
> >> >>>>massive.  Running it through the VB.NET upgrade wizard does not get
> > you
> >> >>>>a
> >> >>>>working program if the program is any more advanced than a "Hello
> > world"
> >> >>>>type.  Sure, given a lot of time you can fix the differences, but
> >> >>>>that
> >> >>>>same
> >> >>>>amount of time can most likely be taken to do a rewrite using all
the
> >> >>>>new
> >> >>>>stuff (or a different language altogether.)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>- Bob Comer
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>news:din6e1hna3158pa89es1380tal3lkvt7bd@4ax.com...
> >> >>>>>I don't think you have to rewrite your old stuff.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:54:36 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >> >>>>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
<42e22095$1@w3.nls.net>:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> If the spyware product they acquired was not based on VB.NET,
how
> >> >>>>>>> can
> >> >>>>>>> they
> >> >>>>>>> be asking why MS is not using VB.NET? Did they expect MS to
> > rewrite
> >> >>>>>>> it?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Actually yes, everyone should expect them to rewrite it, after
all,
> >> >>>>>>Microsoft told all those millions of VB6 developers out there
that
> >> >>>>>>they
> >> >>>>>>had
> >> >>>>>>to rewrite their apps by deadending VB6 like they did.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Did VB.NET even exist when the product development began?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>It didn't exist when all our VB5/VB6 code was written, but so
what,
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>doesn't mean that I don't have to rewrite everything to insure it
> >> >>>>>>keeps
> >> >>>>>>working in the future.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>- Bob Comer
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>"Gregg N" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>news:42e1bdf1$1@w3.nls.net...
> >> >>>>>>> Rich Gauszka wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Microsoft acquired Giant, the company that produced the Spyware
> >> >>>>>>>>detection
> >> >>>>>>>>program, in December 2004, and lost no time in making it
> >> >>>>>>>>available
> >> >>>>>>>>to
> >> >>>>>>>>users the following month.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>"This whole issue begs the question," writes our reader, "why
is
> >> >>>>>>>>Microsoft
> >> >>>>>>>>using an unsupported development environment against their own
> >> >>>>>>>>guidelines?
> >> >>>>>>>>Just another case of' 'Do what I say, not what I do'...
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> If the spyware product they acquired was not based on VB.NET,
how
> >> >>>>>>> can
> >> >>>>>>> they
> >> >>>>>>> be asking why MS is not using VB.NET? Did they expect MS to
> > rewrite
> >> >>>>>>> it?
> >> >>>>>>> Did VB.NET even exist when the product development began?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Gregg
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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